The placing of Thunderbird II pickup

[TBird1958]

Mark...is that Bullet Belt legal??? It soon may become Illegal under our current administration.........

It's legal Baz, yummy chromey .303's. Were I travelling outside the country with the band I'd be concerned about Customs, otherwise I'm fine 

[uwe]

Brilliant! So I need an absolute value after all...

Dear uwe, could you please answer this question?

...so the more actual measure will be from the metal wire of the 20th fret. could you please check this out? Vielen Dank im Voraus!

Voilà, from the 20th fret to the front edge of the neck pup in metric:

Sixties bird: 9,5 cm
Bicentennial: 9,0 cm
Post-87 Bird: 7,8 cm

[vates]

Vielen Dank!

[Highlander]

European weights and measures has had a glitch...

Somehow, they have discovered that the platinum"standard" for the kilogram is slightly the wrong weight... slightly lighter than they measured it last...

[vates]

Well, I browsed through this forum (a lot) and found this measures' picture of an original NR TBIV (see attached).

Could someone please verify if the neck pickup position of an NR is identical to reverse IV? (and presumably the neck pickup of the latter is in the same position of the TB-II...)

Or maybe there is a similar picture of a reverse '64 TBird and I've missed it: so please point me in the right direction.

I just want to make everything right 

Thanks!

[Highlander]

That's George's pic - he'll answer that one I guess...?

[OldManC]

If I ever measured my reverse birds I can't remember where the results are. Sorry! All I have of proper Gibson birds these days are a couple Bicentennials. Maybe Uwe can step in if he sees this.

[uwe]

What am I supposed to measure again? I will dutifully do so if exact orders are given.

[vates]

Uwe, could you please check if the placing on your reverse-Tbird II is similar to the scheme above? You've already replied in this topic, so just to make everything clear. Thank you

[dadagoboi]

If I ever measured my reverse birds I can't remember where the results are. Sorry! All I have of proper Gibson birds these days are a couple Bicentennials. Maybe Uwe can step in if he sees this.

They are the same.

[uwe]

Uwe, could you please check if the placing on your reverse-Tbird II is similar to the scheme above? You've already replied in this topic, so just to make everything clear. Thank you

It is. Exakt dasselbe.

[vates]

Now that is strange. According to your previous calculations:

On both of my 64s (a II and a IV): from the center of the 12th fret to the centerline of the pickup, 10 7/8" (277mm).

276.22500 mm

The centerline of the 12th fret wire.

And the scheme above shows that there are 10 11/16 inches (271.4625 mm) from the 12th fret to the centerline of the neck pickup.
That is a difference of 4.7625 mm. And it is the latter that made me to renew this thread (after I found that picture and compared it to results of my previous insvestigation)

[the mojo hobo]

If you want to pick nits look at it again. If the front edge of the pickup is at 10" and the back edge is at 11 1/2" the centerline must be 10 3/4 or it is not the center line, it is the off-center line

[ilan]

This reminds me of a very similar discussion on the Wishbass forum.

[4005]

I could go & check my old Birds but I'm having too much fun reading all this, also I'm kind of afraid what I may find, once I wanted to see if the truss rod cover could be interchangeable, and both the '64s & the 77 screw holes were all different, and the '68? Forgetaboutit!