8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build

Started by dadagoboi, October 14, 2012, 01:43:54 PM

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godofthunder

 In general for a 4 banger I find Warmoth necks to stiff but for a 8 string I bet they would be perfect.
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dadagoboi

Quote from: godofthunder on October 18, 2012, 02:47:23 PM
In general for a 4 banger I find Warmoth necks to stiff but for a 8 string I bet they would be perfect.

The Warmoth necks are way overbuilt IMO.  I'm gonna give one of their 4 string angled, undrilled paddle heads a try.  Scarfed joint, 1/4" fretboard, thick headstock and the 2 stiffening rods should hold 8 strings.  Width is 1-11/16" at the nut, 1/16" narrower than my other Eighters.

That's AFTER I finish your NR, Scott! ;D

maxschrek

Quote from: dadagoboi on October 18, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
The Warmoth necks are way overbuilt IMO.  I'm gonna give one of their 4 string angled, undrilled paddle heads a try.  Scarfed joint, 1/4" fretboard, thick headstock and the 2 stiffening rods should hold 8 strings.  Width is 1-11/16" at the nut, 1/16" narrower than my other Eighters.

That's AFTER I finish your NR, Scott! ;D

I have one of those on hand for a project and I can assure you that it will totally support the tension of an 8 string.
Built like a tank.


gearHed289

Come to think of it, they build their 8 string necks in what they call the "fat back" design. A 4 string, P profile neck with paddle headstock should be just right.

dadagoboi

Quote from: gearHed289 on October 19, 2012, 09:13:04 AM
Come to think of it, they build their 8 string necks in what they call the "fat back" design. A 4 string, P profile neck with paddle headstock should be just right.

Plus a tighter radius fretboard will help for playing chords.

Here's  my 2 Korean Eighters, the Robelli sounds better.  It has single small trussrod 1 piece neck and handles 8 strings no problem.  The Dean Edge has a double trussrod 3 piece neck.

godofthunder

 For a budget 8 string I have heard nothing but good things about the Robelli.
Maker of the Badbird Bridge, "intonation without modification" for your vintage Gibson Thunderbird

dadagoboi

Quote from: godofthunder on October 19, 2012, 02:13:45 PM
For a budget 8 string I have heard nothing but good things about the Robelli.

They go for $200-300 on Ebay.  Fit and finish are excellent.

godofthunder

 I can't wait!
Quote from: dadagoboi on October 18, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
The Warmoth necks are way overbuilt IMO.  I'm gonna give one of their 4 string angled, undrilled paddle heads a try.  Scarfed joint, 1/4" fretboard, thick headstock and the 2 stiffening rods should hold 8 strings.  Width is 1-11/16" at the nut, 1/16" narrower than my other Eighters.

That's AFTER I finish your NR, Scott! ;D
Maker of the Badbird Bridge, "intonation without modification" for your vintage Gibson Thunderbird

dadagoboi

Weather has been very cooperative the last few days, fairly cool and dry.  I'm finishing up a REV42 and a JAEbird.  Should have your NR41 ready for paint first week of November.

dadagoboi

Since I'll be keeping this bass I decided to use the remaining body frrom the RNR project...this is the Non Reverse one that now lives near Buffalo, NY.


This is the Reverse one, made simply by flipping the blank.  Blue tape shows new perimeter.  'Dutchman' will fill neck pup hole


Sanding inside curves on a prototype can be a real PITA.  Here a 3/4 inch forstner hole makes it much easier.




Shaving neck starts with a surform type rasp, then sandpaper from 60 grit on up.


Rear of headstock prepared for veneer.  Even though I used backing when drilling the new holes there was some tearout.  This gray epoxy "jelly roll" has hardener on the inside and resin outside.  Slice off a piece, knead it and you have a "JB weld" type, quick setting, harder than bondo material that dries very quickly and can be easily shaped.  Great stuff! No mess and no waste.


Taper ream and rat tail/half round files remove and clean up veneer.  I use Titebond with a caul and a few clamps.  After a half hour or so it's ready to be unclamped and worked.


3/16" hole for inside radius.  That was one giant headstock!


Showing how predrilled hole simplifies the process.


Is it a bird? Is it a fish? It's a headstock...


Holes to fill and contours to smooth, upper fret access is OK for an Eighter.






godofthunder

  Hmmmmmmmm might be a 8 string in my future ;)
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gearHed289

Looking good man! As usual... I'm starting to use my Ric 8 string some more now.

dadagoboi

Quote from: gearHed289 on December 12, 2012, 09:36:18 AM
Looking good man! As usual... I'm starting to use my Ric 8 string some more now.

Thanks!  They sure are fun to play in a trio.

dadagoboi

Filled unnecessary holes with combination of dowels, glue, epoxy putty and 2 part epoxy resin.  Then coat of auto lacquer spot putty.


The transition from the heel of the neck to the body was a little bulky, here it is smoothed out.  You can get an idea what the heel looked like from the neck shaving pic in the last post


Putty sanded off, bass assembled and set up.


Stack pot with shaved knobs, tone is from a stack set, top is a regular knob. About 1/16" height removed from T, 1/8" from V.  Electrosocket jack holder.


Ready to rouse the neighbors.  I'm thinking Pelham or Lake Placid Blue for color.




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