Ok, here we go again: "And the clanky shall inherit the earth ..."

[gweimer]

Wasn't punk invented to stop stuff like this?

Punk was invented by bored guitarists who wanted to self-indulge with minimal structure.  It morphed into bands that couldn't play songs they couldn't  write.  Rap was created by singers who couldn't.   

[uwe]

Wasn't punk invented to stop stuff like this?

Yes, but punk failed abysmally in doing away with classic, prog, dinosaur and what-have-you-rock. People still listen to Dark Side of the Moon and Sgt Pepper, but who listens to Punk classic albums regularly? Punk now has Green Day as an offspring and has to live with it. And it was never intended to last long in the first place, hence the lack of longevity and stability of most punk bands.

Punk believed to have pushed the dinosaurs out of the valley, but the dinosaurs eventually all lumbered back after a period of hibernation and are still there. Today, there are more reformed classic rock bands chugging in the circuit and recording regularly than there are old punk bands (there is a scene of new ones though and a true punker would argue that that is preferable to the Sex Pistols doing reunion tours through Casinos).

And people don't queue up for the 24 bit remaster of Never Mind the Bollocks either while every second tier classic or prog rock band has long remastered its back catalogue over and over.

I guess punk was live music to be experienced in that moment, not heard in the aftermath. The visual aspect was always important in punk gigs, not the improvisational aspect, there are no extended punk guitar solos to listen to decades later. That is why there is no "Rockin the Fillmore", "Get your Ya-Yas out", "Made in Japan" or "Comes Alive" of any of the former punk stars, many of whom were dynamic performers. And their music didn't transpose that well to a studio environment either. Or maybe people with expensive audios don't care for bar chords in eights that much.

I always knew they wouldn't last long.   And my disappointment at Never Mind the Bollocks when I first heard it proved enduring.

[Highlander]

... i thought the the cloths washers were brilliant.

Maytags...!

The rotisserie and washtubs where in response to the constant questions on "what gear do you use?" nonsense... (I think he endorses Orange now, btw )

[nofi]

when i think of punk i think of this stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZiJRkt1FD4&feature=related

green day, pennywise, rancid, ramones and all the 'modern punk' bands may as well be procal harem.

[clankenstein]

you might like crass or extreme noise terror.

[Highlander]

Keep forgetting to say - they've sort of gone full circle as Peart is working with Kevin J Anderson on a novel of the recording, expanding the concept further...

For I have dined on honey-dew...