A little bird sang to me that ...

Started by uwe, September 29, 2011, 11:20:31 AM

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lowend1

Quote from: uwe on September 30, 2011, 12:08:30 PM
It's something people want to have chiefly for the look and I'm not counting myself out.

Shhhh - stop now or hell post a picture of that Dean thingie again ;D
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OldManC

As Uwe has mentioned before, Vs really work in two guitar bands because there seems to be more sonic space when you add the V as one of the guitars fighting to be heard in that spectrum. Michael Schenker seemed to use his to good effect (though he seems always to have had that half open wah in the mix as well).

Dave W

Quote from: Barklessdog on September 30, 2011, 12:00:15 PM
I remember a thread Dave posted in about how a V shaped body does not resonate the same as other bodies, thus the lack lust tone of most v shaped guitars.

I can't think of one v shaped guitar or bass that was ever a sought after tone.

It was an Explorer, but yes, there was a difference between that and a traditional body shape. I imagine a nontraditional shape like a V would also be different.

The pages are still up: Research on the Acoustics of Guitars

uwe

Explorers sound just fine as basses in my ears, but then they have a lot more wood towards the neck than a Flying V has.
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ilan

Excellent read, Dave, thanks for the link.

Pilgrim

After carefully reviewing all the graphs linked to that article, I have concluded that they are indeed graphs.  ???  8)

More beer, please.  :mrgreen:
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Dave W

Quote from: Pilgrim on October 02, 2011, 12:09:00 PM
After carefully reviewing all the graphs linked to that article, I have concluded that they are indeed graphs.  ???  8)

More beer, please.  :mrgreen:

Good idea.  :)

They do show differences though, even if you and I don't understand what they mean.

Psycho Bass Guy

Think of them as peaks and nodes of an impulse model for a convolution reverb. As complicated as that sounds, that's exactly how expensive reverbs model famous rooms' acoustic characteristics. However, that test is far from an accurate respresentation on how body shape will affect overall tone because it is testing merely an impact resonance and not vibrational torsion from the strings being played.  Simple mechanical physics dictates that differently shaped wooden bodies are going to resonate differently without the graphs. All those tests showed was where in their bodies that resonance flexing occurs.

uwe

VoilĂ  - a first sneak pic, just a snapshot, not an official promo, so don't be too harsh please. Does what it says on the tin I guess, but I'm underwhelmed, no great fan of a white pg that huge, I'd have preferred black on red/cherry.

We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Dave W

I didn't really expect anything different. At least it's not an inverted V.

Iome

Was the pic taken in the official Gibson workshop?

Nice, i agree with Uwe, it would look better with a black pg. Are those the same p.u.'s as in the Les Paul?

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Basvarken

I miss the "shoulders" (where the neck meets the body) of the classic flying v shape.

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uwe

Quote from: Iome on October 07, 2011, 12:51:55 AM
Was the pic taken in the official Gibson workshop?

Yes, by the staff photographer as a favor to me from a guy with Gibson I met at Messe Frankfurt and who actually answers emails!

Nice, i agree with Uwe, it would look better with a black pg. Are those the same p.u.'s as in the Les Paul?

My info is that they were especially designed for this bass which is why it took a while, but if the size is right they might be the standard TP Plus chromies.

We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

wagdog

I voted white pg in the poll but after seeing this picture I recant that position.  Yuck!  Maybe parchment though...

Quote from: Basvarken on October 07, 2011, 02:44:00 AM
I miss the "shoulders" (where the neck meets the body) of the classic flying v shape.

You're right.  I never would have noticed that but it does make a difference.