(Mark buys a) Gibson Explorer reissue (for Uwe)

Started by TBird1958, September 01, 2011, 09:00:00 AM

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Dave W

Uwe is right, dealer is wrong. Preciosa is a naturally dark wood from the Amazon, not related to maple. It's been called a rosewood, but it isn't.

OldManC

Quote from:  from Gibson Explorer pageTired of guitarists getting all the hip alternative axes while bassists seem stuck in the middle of the 20th century? Grab onto the Explorer Bass from Gibson USA, and ram the low end right into the 21st century

Henry really needs to fire his copywriters...

slinkp

Quote from: uwe on November 02, 2011, 05:26:30 AMMaple sounds snappy, but looks a bit cheap and naked except on certain models, rosewood and pao ferro sound better (or should I say characteristic?) than ebony which neither takes away or adds much sonically and a dark (though it's mostly dye anyway) ebony board is a looker, but in the end ...

Huh, really? My ebony-board LPB1 has my favorite unplugged sound by far.  It has a beautiful resonant character (mahogany body/neck?) combined with a nice bright snap on top, and I always thought the latter came from the fingerboard.

I don't know for sure what's under the paint but I always assumed mahogany body and neck (I think the guy I got it from said so).

Whatever it is, to my ears there's something magic about that bass that makes it really nice to play around the house.

(Personally though, I've always thought that wood doesn't make a huge difference once you're plugged in ... pickups, amps, speakers matter a lot more to me.  Not much of that bright snap translates through the TB Plus pups. Still sounds awesome though.)
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uwe

Yes, ebony is supposed to sound snappier and it is also more durable, hence the ebony boards of most fretless basses. But I prefer the warmth of rosewood, matter of taste only.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
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uwe

#94
"Quote from:  from Gibson Explorer page
Tired of guitarists getting all the hip alternative axes while bassists seem stuck in the middle of the 20th century? Grab onto the Explorer Bass from Gibson USA, and ram the low end right into the 21st century

Henry really needs to fire his copywriters..."

I guess, internally here, Mark would have something to observe about ramming or rimming or reaming low ends right into anything, no? Other than that I liked the jab at the Fender shape "bassists seem stuck in the middle of the 20th century", it made me smile, never mind how the Explorer shape is from 1959 and therfore a child of that tail fin ridden era (as is clearly evident by the design of the bass) too. But few people know that, so it was alright for the marketing people to insinuate that tail fins are somehow something modern. Say what you will, but playing a Gibson Explorer bass will have nobody thinking you are a Fender player. +1 for corporate identity. If I had been Gibson's marketing department, I would have launched Explorer and Flying V bass together as "Return of the Modernists - Back to the Future". With a pic of Ted McCarthy



and the comment "Not everything in the McCarthy Era was bad ... and these two axes may even be used for traditionally American activities ".  :mrgreen:

For the benefit of our younger readers, watch this from 6.15 onwards ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDfdzcLD1s4&feature=related

This guy here is Joseph and not Ted McCarthy!



I fear Joseph would have thought the V and Explorer "un-American" too!  ;)


Uwe
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

godofthunder

 Thanks good to know!
Quote from: Dave W on November 02, 2011, 08:26:01 AM
Uwe is right, dealer is wrong. Preciosa is a naturally dark wood from the Amazon, not related to maple. It's been called a rosewood, but it isn't.
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Dave W


Dave W

Quote from: godofthunder on November 02, 2011, 02:27:48 PM
Thanks good to know!

I just looked it up, the botanical name of preciosa is aniba canelilla. So definitely not a rosewood, which are the various dalbergia species. But google aniba canelilla and you find that the bark is used for a medicinal oil sold as "rosewood oil." Go figure.

uwe

Ah - that tricky little letter "h"!!!

Paul McCarthy was quite an influence on me as a bassist though!
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

PhilT

Where are all these hip alternative guitars then? Surely he can't mean the Firebird X?

Dave W

Quote from: PhilT on November 03, 2011, 07:39:03 AM
Where are all these hip alternative guitars then? Surely he can't mean the Firebird X?

They're in the Dean catalog.  ;D

uwe

You have to grant it to them, all Dean models are immediately recognizable. I like the aspect of catalog order too.

We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Basvarken

www.brooksbassguitars.com
www.thegibsonbassbook.com

uwe

Certainly a concept that, errrm, flies with the targeted consumer group. Most Dean players have pimples, are way past their "best use"-date, no girlfriend and still live at home with their mother ...

I didn't say that Joey DiMaio!!!
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

TBird1958



teh metals............... ;)



Just an update on the Explorer as of 11/03/2011, it's not due until 1/20/2012  :-\.
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