New Schaller bridge option for shortscales

Barklessdog · March 10, 2011, 10:27:28 AM

http://www.thomann.de/ie/schaller_bass_bridge_2000_4s_chrome.htm

Watt sent me this link. He said he's using it on one of his EB-3's & is working out great. However, does not mount to existing studs. Also seems to be only sold in Europe at this point?

uwe · March 10, 2011, 10:45:33 AM

Nice bridge.

Did anybody say "two-point"? Or "German engineering superiority"? Nein? Wirklich?

Vorsprung durch Technik.

http://www.thomann.de/de/media_bdbviewer_AR_261227.html?image=1

HEALTH WARNING: METRIC CONTENT!!!

Nothing that makes this short or long scale though, it's just a bridge. I like the look, modern, but not fancy-pantsy.

Dave W · March 10, 2011, 11:48:02 AM

New? These came out in 2000! I had one that I bought in 2001, had it briefly on a Guild JS-II that I sold after putting the original bridge back on. Sold it to Ken last year, it now resides in the UK.

Nice thing about them is that you can adjust them to under 2" string spacing if need be.

You can get them here through Allparts. Price has really gone up.

They are very low profile, which is what Ken needed for his Demetriou project. If you were to put it on a Fender, you'd have to shim. Even more on a bass with a neck angle.

They use a standard Fender 5-hole pattern.

Barklessdog · March 10, 2011, 02:58:32 PM

Sounds like a nice alternative to the HipShot. Never seen anyone here post anything on them?

Wow $145!

http://www.allparts.com/4-String-Bass-Bridge-Chrome-p/bb-3530-010.htm

eb2 · March 10, 2011, 03:12:27 PM

QuoteHowever, does not mount to existing studs.

QuoteThey use a standard Fender 5-hole pattern.

combines with

QuoteIf you were to put it on a Fender, you'd have to shim.

Thank you, Schaller engineers. Once again you have put a lot of thought and time into designing a bass bridge that replaces....absolutely nothing.

QuoteSounds like a nice alternative to the HipShot.

I will stick with HipShot.

uwe · March 10, 2011, 04:24:43 PM

Jim is testy tonight ... Once again measured retaliation is forced upon us ...

Dave W · March 10, 2011, 04:52:14 PM

Quote from: eb2 on March 10, 2011, 03:12:27 PM

Thank you, Schaller engineers. Once again you have put a lot of thought and time into designing a bass bridge that replaces....absolutely nothing.

True. OTOH if you need an extra-narrow or extra-wide string spacing, it will fill the bill. The diagram (.pdf) shows a range of 45.5mm to 65mm. That's a greater range than the Schaller roller bridge or any other adjustable string spacing bridge I've seen.

Quote from: Barklessdog on March 10, 2011, 02:58:32 PM
Sounds like a nice alternative to the HipShot. Never seen anyone here post anything on them?

Wow $145!

http://www.allparts.com/4-String-Bass-Bridge-Chrome-p/bb-3530-010.htm

That's the list price, I imagine Carlo can get you 20% off or more.

I recall paying about $65 for mine 10 years ago but Allparts' list price was about $50 less then.

I imagine Ken will post more on it in his Demetriou thread when he gets to that point.

drbassman · March 10, 2011, 08:34:12 PM

Quote from: uwe on March 10, 2011, 04:24:43 PM
Jim is testy tonight ... Once again measured retaliation is forced upon us ...

Jim has several good points.

Basvarken · March 11, 2011, 01:53:49 AM

+1

uwe · March 11, 2011, 06:05:31 AM

Just gang up on me, it's alright.

eb2 · March 11, 2011, 09:53:48 AM

No - its true, I am testy. I read the post title, and get my hopes up. Then I see it is just another in a long line of bridges that will end up putting a bunch of holes in an old EB-0 and be useless for the arched top of an EB-2 or EB-1. Then I forgot I ate my last Do-Si-Do and I have to wait till the weekend for the Girl Scouts to set up a table at the local grocery. I am crabby.

Is it too much to ask for? A bridge that will fit on an EB-2 on the studs, that you can intonate and won't act like a rasp on your hand from some jutting allen screw or serrated edge saddle? That's all I ask. In chrome or nickle? I plan on buying a HipShot and drilling an off-center hole above the treble side stud hole. Then it will fit an older one. But even that makes me crabby. HipShot could cast it with a "figure eight" hole and we'd be done.

Have you had the Thank You Berry Much cookie? A bad name, and a fair cookie.

dadagoboi · March 11, 2011, 10:22:19 AM

If it means that much to you why not do what Scott did,design your own bridge and either build it yourself or have somebody else do it.

Barklessdog · March 11, 2011, 10:53:45 AM

Can you adjust the Hipshot string spacing?

On my EB-0 the G string needs to be moved in a bit. This bridge would certainly give me that.

Basvarken · March 11, 2011, 10:54:33 AM

I'm working on such a bridge with BaCH.
For the EB2 copy (both long scale and short scale!). I specifically advised them to make a bridge that could be a drop-in replacement for the Evertilt.
We sent numerous drawings and specifications to each other.

I hope to be able to tell you more next week.

sniper · March 11, 2011, 11:28:52 AM

i might be showing my stupidity here but it would not be the first time:

could one make a stud mount bridge out of a regular "flat" type by machining a mounting plate to go under the bridge that has stud mount holes? using the regular mounting holes to screw the bridge onto the plate and if one is really picky about tolerances, then make it a "thermal press" (heat up the plate in an oven to expand it and mate the two parts) with a couple of thousandths cold temp interference?

i think a good candidate would be a Schaller 463 a small bridge and available in any color one wants, with the plate made out of aluminum and polished surfaces on the ends where the stud hole would be, anodized or chromed. the middle part of the plate would not have to be very thick and one could make the stud holes any measurement one would want.

this was just a thought i had when the Dr told me i sent the wrong type of bridge on my bass build. use close tolerances and lock down type studs to stop the "wobble".