Outpost CD

[uwe]

Everything should be done by end of November, it's not supposed to be Chinese Democracy II!

[exiledarchangel]

So it would be a christmas cd then?

[luve2fli]

I'm down - love to contribute a song!

[Freuds_Cat]

Everything should be done by end of November, it's not supposed to be Chinese Democracy II!

  No probs,   The Bassplayers Democratic Republicc of Outpost has filed your information for future reference 

Seriously though it would be good to get as many people included as is practical and a lot of people have works in progress like yourself so I just want to get an idea of a rough timeframe.

[drbassman]

I'm interested too!  Does it have to be an original song or can it be one previously recorded?

[uwe]

Original or cover, old recording or fresh from the protool - anything goes.

[Freuds_Cat]

As far as a digital album is concerned then we are obliged to abide by the hosting companys policies.
Most of them quote something similar to the Bandcamp one here:
http://bandcamp.com/copyright

An option would be to have 2 versions. One digital online and the other a seperate CD only which includes covers.
I dunno, opinions, suggestions, ideas?

[hieronymous]

Personally, I think all-original is the way to go. I should have piped up earlier, but I've been super-busy. At the very beginning of my re-entry into music in 2002 I recorded some covers, but never looked into the legality of making them public, instead opting for the lazy way out - to do all original music. I have recently recorded a couple of covers for the first time in eight years, and have begun looking in to releasing them legally. But again, I'm lazy, so I haven't gotten very far. Anyway, that's my two cents on the originals vs. covers issue.

I would also love to participate in the project - sorry for my late entry. I have stuff in the can - I have some short sketches that I could contribute or longer pieces. Also gotta look into copyrighting my own stuff!

[Dave W]

This CD won't be sold. I don't see how it infringes on anyone's copyright. It's not commercial use.

To give you some idea of distribution, I see that there have been 32 downloads of the Pit CD I put up on Mediafire. Add that to the ones mailed out originally and I'm pretty sure the total is under 100.

[hieronymous]

This CD won't be sold. I don't see how it infringes on anyone's copyright. It's not commercial use.

I'm not sure that's true. I'm no expert, but in The Indie Band Survival Guide, it states, "When you record a cover song, you need to obtain a mechanical license from the author/publisher and pay the requisite fees... As outlined above, it doesn't matter if a song is given away for free or used as a promo, a copy is a copy, and to avoid an infringement claim, you're supposed to obtain a license." (page 194)

I finally found the section referred to in this quote - it's on page 164, and states, "Recording someone else's song requires a license. This license is needed even if you're just giving the cover song away for free."

Whether someone would ever crack down on the Outpost is another matter, but I think we should be aware that including covers is problematic. I hate to be the bearer of bad news! 

[Dave W]

I'm no expert either, but giving away promos is commercial use. That's not what we're doing.

There was music copyrighted by others on the Pit CD. No issue has ever come up.

[Freuds_Cat]

Updated list of contributors:

Freuds_Cat
gweimer
Barklessdog
Basvarken
TBird1958
Chris P.
chromium
OldManC
lowend1
Pilgrim
Aussie Mark  
uwe
luve2fli
drbassman
hieronymous


Pending:

Kenny's 51st State
Dave W

[Freuds_Cat]

I'll see what I can contribute - my best recordings are mono of a live performance.

Mono wont be a problem Al. What kind of quality is the recording?

[GonzoBass]

I'll play.
Can I e-mail an mp3?

[Freuds_Cat]

I'll play.
Can I e-mail an mp3?

Do you have a higher quality version?