If they sound anything like the Epi guitar-sized 'buckers I pulled out of my Les Paul Standard, which is what everything seems to indicate, I'd have to agree that they're NOT good sounding pickups, even though it seems weird for me to be agreeing with that SVT-hating douche. (BTW, someone is in love with himself, no?) I certainly would never use those for a 12-string, they're all overblown mids and little bottom.