'60s T-Bird pickup vital statistics

Started by Pekka, June 06, 2010, 12:26:56 AM

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Daniel_J

I was also interested in these specs. Not that I intend to get a T-Bird pickup made, but like Pekka I wanted to know some of its vitals, just to try to understand a little about output and basic structural details.

Anyway, here are some pics I saved a while back. Don't remember where I've found them, but if I'm not mistaken they're from a guy called David Schwab, apparently a pickup maker.



BTW Mark, I know it's not my business but if you don't be carefull, your love for the Lull pickup soon is going to become something like Uwe's black hardware fetish...  ;)

OldManC

Quote from: Daniel_J on June 07, 2010, 05:20:45 PM
BTW Mark, I know it's not my business but if you don't be carefull, your love for the Lull pickup soon is going to become something like Uwe's black hardware fetish...  ;)

Mark's fetishes are what make him so endearing to all of us here!  :mrgreen:

TBird1958



  ;D

I'm a girl of simple taste.................I like the best! 

Doesn't matter if we're talkin' Lingere or Thunderbird pickups.






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Dave W


Hornisse

Almost looks as if they used 2 of the G-3 pickups side by side. 

Daniel_J

Quote from: Dave W on June 07, 2010, 07:07:15 PM
Daniel, that's a 70s sidewinder.

So, nothing to do with the T-Bird pickup?

TBird1958


It's the pickup from a '76 'Bird. Personally I like them in '76's, however it is nothing like a '60s pickup in sound or construction, also it's taller.
Resident T Bird playing Drag Queen www.thenastyhabits.com  "Impülsivê", the new lush fragrance as worn by the unbelievable Fräulein Rômmélle! Traces of black patent leather, Panzer grease, mahogany and model train oil mingle and combust to one sheer sensation ...

Dave W

To add to what Mark said, the EB-series mudbucker and the 76 T-Bird pickup use the same sidewinder principle. But unlike the mudbucker, the 76 T-bird pickup has normal size coils and isn't way overwound. Again, completely different construction from the 60s T-Bird pickups.


Highlander

That's where I was getting mixed up...
The random mind of a Silver Surfer...
If research was easy, it wouldn't need doing...
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JazzBassTbird

Quote from: Pekka on June 06, 2010, 12:26:56 AM
Hello everyone! I've been trying to find information about the original Thunderbird pickups. The usual stuff: ohms, wire gauge, magnets etc.

I have two NOS '70s covers and my friend is a pickup maker, you'll might guess the rest!:) Our aim is not to make an exact copy but to get into the ballpark.

Thanks in advance!

PS. The pickups are going to the inverness green NR seen on this thread:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=657989&highlight=non+reverse

This isn't a spec that will affect the sound, but I've disassembled 4 '60s TB pickups in the past, 1 pair with nickel covers from a reverse 'Bird, and a pair of chrome covered PUs from an NR '67.

1. Most (or all) '60s TB pickups have bobbins originally intended for a Gibson steel guitar. It was the only part in their inventory long enough to fit a bass, but these were molded with holes for adjustable pole pieces so Gibson filed the centers out (somewhat crudely, in fact) to fit the blade magnets.

2. The nickel covered PUs had cream bobbins and the chrome pickups had black...sort of like PAFs from the '50s!

Again, this won't affect the sound, but interesting details nevertheless...

uwe

Wot? Color of the bobbins does not affect sound?!!!
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Highlander

The random mind of a Silver Surfer...
If research was easy, it wouldn't need doing...
Staring at that event horizon is a dirty job, but someone has to do it; something's going to come back out of it one day...

uwe


Ah, yes, how could I have forgotten that.  :-[
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Highlander

A man of your stature is allowed a sin or two in his life... ;)
The random mind of a Silver Surfer...
If research was easy, it wouldn't need doing...
Staring at that event horizon is a dirty job, but someone has to do it; something's going to come back out of it one day...

godofthunder

I had one apart years ago, sorry no pics but it wasn't much of anything, a big thin single coil, as stated before looked like a Gibson lap steel pickup with a blade.
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