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two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« on: May 24, 2010, 03:10:20 PM »
http://cgi.ebay.com/1970s-Bass-Bridge-Fits-Gibson-and-Others-/310221964715?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item483aab85ab





Looks like a smart idea! This way you can adjust the height of every single saddle.
To me they look like Telecaster saddles. I had no idea they would fit in.


But I'm not sure if it allows for enough saddle travel to intonate properly...
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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2010, 03:26:30 PM »
Does not look like there's going to be a lot of room for travel - as far back as they go, they will not be beyond the support holes - not "cut" for bass strings, either... looks like what we call a "cut-and-shut" in the UK - a collection of rogue components put together to con an unsuspecting or gullible buyer...? just an opinion and no offence meant... honest...
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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2010, 03:31:58 PM »
Does not look like there's going to be a lot of room for travel - as far back as they go, they will not be beyond the support holes - not "cut" for bass strings, either... looks like what we call a "cut-and-shut" in the UK - a collection of rogue components put together to con an unsuspecting or gullible buyer...? just an opinion and no offence meant... honest...

I see what you mean Kenny.
The saddles not being cut for bass string is no big deal, I think.
But the saddle of the E string always needs to be further back than this one would allow.
That would make this solution pretty useless

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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2010, 08:15:24 PM »
One could pssibly grind a 1/4 in. of material off the back of those saddles? just a thought....
I do like the idea of it.
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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2010, 12:09:47 AM »
The only sensible cure to the dreaded two point is readily available with the good people of Hipshot!
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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2010, 12:41:11 AM »
Not really Uwe. Only for flat surfaced bodies...

Plus, it's an ugly oversized piece of metal

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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2010, 04:05:34 AM »
You need this for your older hobbit, right? Or does your Triumph feature the two point still too?

I must say that the two point on my Recording gives me the least issues, possibly because there is no need to remove the string dampener to get it low enough. Generally, the two point is worst with long scale basses such as EB-3L, EB-4 and SB-450 due to the increased string tension. It obviously wasn't constructed with a long scale bass in mind.
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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2010, 04:26:01 AM »
I don't really need it. The two point bridge on my 1969 Les Paul Bass is fine. Despite the fact that I removed the mute device it doesn't tilt.

My Triumph (among others) has the three point bridge.

The idea of the height adjustable saddles maybe could be applied to the three point bridge too.
The three pointers are longer than the two pointers.
So the saddle travel problem would be less of an issue.

You'd probably only need to grind down the E- saddle.


I might just give it a try, as BaCH sells those saddles seperately for about 1 Euro each...





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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2010, 08:07:44 AM »
I like the idea - if only because the Delrin saddles so rarely come up. If anyone can get this to work i'd certainly be interested to know which saddles they bought

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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2010, 10:22:14 AM »
I've ordered four saddles at BaCH just for the heck of it.
We'll see if we can invent a poor man's Hipshot  ;)

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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2010, 11:19:59 AM »
Thrifty little Holländer!
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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2010, 11:23:49 AM »
Thats a great Idea, I have had adjustable saddles drawn up for a three pointer for quite some time, never got around to doing anything about it.
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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2010, 11:42:41 AM »
Fit a longer bolt, cut off the back and re-thread the section with the grub screws... job done...
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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2010, 01:00:31 PM »
I don't really need it. The two point bridge on my 1969 Les Paul Bass is fine. Despite the fact that I removed the mute device it doesn't tilt.



I might just give it a try, as BaCH sells those saddles seperately for about 1 Euro each...






I've used that TYPE style saddle quite a bit doing SX Telecaster relics.  The SX ones are pretty flimsy pot metal and tended to strip out  both the height and length adjustment threads.  I've got a Squier Tele that has that style and they LOOK to be better quality than the SX.

My point is if you can get the BaCHs to almost work it's possible there might be better ones out there.  The strat style of the Ebay listing are steel and hold their threads better. 
 

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Re: two point bridge with fender(?) saddles
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2010, 01:31:09 PM »
Yeah that was the idea:
Just check if it works.
If it works, find decent saddles.