Drummers beware

[SKATE RAT]

i love how Dave hates everything

[Rhythm N. Bliss]

 Skynyrd in the 70s was SO much better than the current bunch, just as the original Allman Bros. Band was far more captivating than now.
Boy, there's 2 bands who got CLOBBERED by FATE & lost their key members!!
Saturday Night Special is a more appropriate song to quote in regard to this incident.
Artimus Pyle was a helluva drummer. He was a hero of mine until I heard of some recent charges against him.

It's a mucked up world.

[Dave W]

i love how Dave hates everything

You might be amazed at how much music I love and how much of it I have. Mainstream? Not so much. I like what I like whether or not it's popular.

[nofi]

does anyone remember the show nugent had on mtv. it was about the daily life of being ted. in one segment mighty outdoorsman ted was going to show city slicker sebastion bach how to fell a small tree. well the chainsaw slipped onto teds leg and he was hauled away for medical attention. instant karmas gonna' get you.

[gweimer]

I guess I should chime in on The Nuge...he showed me my first blues progression at my house when I was 16 years old.  I still have the autograph he gave me that day.  His cousin is an old friend of mine, and was the drummer in my high school band (long story behind how Ted ended up at my house that day).  His mom was always really cool.  She worked at the dry cleaners near my house, and my dad used to talk to her a lot.  She came to my wedding.
Ted was always into hunting.  All of the game on the back of the Call of the Wild album was hunted by Ted.  He also generally hunts for food, but I can't say that's always true.  I do know that when he had the radio show in Detroit, his wife mentioned how he cooked dinner for them from the hunt.  Ted was always a little overboard from the mouth.  I remember him talking about killing a couple guys who tried robbing him outside Cobo Hall back in the early '70s.  "I tried to act scared".  Apparently, the two perps didn't realize that Ted had a gun under his coat, and about the time they dropped their guard, he dropped them.  I believe he got off on self-defense.  What may have gained him a reputation early on now seems to be simply a way of staying in the forefront.  Nugent's been up and down financially a few times, but he's always been willing to tour.  He's a better guitarist than he shows - his Byrds had such light action that the strings would make contact just by breathing on the neck.  Like what he does or not, it's all by intent.  No accidents allowed with his setup.

[nofi]

i have heard several stories of ted shooting people and people shooting at him but none confirmed. it's just the kind of publicity that would give him big wood, though.

[gweimer]

Oh, and I have it on good authority that Ted has actually fired musicians mid-set from the stage for substance use.  I also remember Marion, his mom, saying that once Derek St. Holmes joined the band, Ted was going to be pushed a little harder.

[Denis]

Skynyrd in the 70s was SO much better than the current bunch, just as the original Allman Bros. Band was far more captivating than now.
Boy, there's 2 bands who got CLOBBERED by FATE & lost their key members!!
Saturday Night Special is a more appropriate song to quote in regard to this incident.
Artimus Pyle was a helluva drummer. He was a hero of mine until I heard of some recent charges against him.

It's a mucked up world.

I agree with you. The original Skynyrd lineups had so much going for them and Pyle, who was mostly unhurt after the plane crash, got many of the survivors out of the plane who might have died had he not done so.
Here's what the recently updated Wikipedia article has about Pyle's actions: "In 1993, Pyle was arrested and charged in Jacksonville Beach, Florida with sexual battery against both daughters, ages four and eight.[10] Facing a potential life sentence, Pyle arranged a plea bargain with prosecutors to spare the children a trial.[11] He received eight years of probation,[12] and he was entered into the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's "Sexual Offender" database.[13] Pyle explains the motive of his former girlfriend's action. "Three days after I was thrown in jail, not one, but two of her boyfriends moved into my house. She gave them all of my cars. I had four beautiful automobiles. She gave them ten sets of drums that I had collected all over the world. And my home. Brand-new television set, brand new vacuum cleaner, 'cause I had gotten a settlement from Skynyrd and I bought everything for my family."[14] Pyle also claims that he spent nearly $500,000 on his legal defense but soon ran out of money, thus being forced to plead guilty to "touching his children." Pyle then summarizes the story: "This shouldn't have happened. When I left the band, I lost my star status, and that's when she decided to lower the boom. I put a new band together with my son and I was ready to go on. But to this girl, I wasn't a Rock-and-Roll star anymore." Pyle then added that he would have gladly given his former girlfriend all the material possessions and freedom: "We would've separated. I would've taken care of my children. But no, she has to charge me with a charge worse than murder."[15]
Little of this subject matter was covered in the press until November 19, 2007, when Pyle was arrested in St. Johns County, Florida for failure to register as a sex offender. Pyle was acquitted after a jury trial of all three charges steaming from this arrest on Aug. 28, 2009.[16]

[uwe]

It's hard to have an unattackable opinion on that and it's a heated topic where you are quickly misunderstood. Let's just say: There is a possibilty that Pyle speaks the truth. False accusation of child molestation are the nuke button in today's war of the roses - I know that from a befriended woman attorney who specializes in family law.

For every guy whose career, family life and freedom has been ruined by unjust pedophile accusations there is probably at least a handful of real child molesters though who were never taken to responsibility.

[Denis]

I agree wholeheartedly with you, Uwe. There's no winner in situations like that and everyone comes out the loser. I hope though, that the accusations are false, but who's to say? These days, a parent is likely to be charged with child abuse if he/she spanks their child for being out of control. Sad state of affairs.

[Highlander]

I know he refutes the accusations on his own site, but... As Uwe inferred, he's already been nuked...

[Dave W]

I believe him, because I've seen how many of these alleged child abuse cases have turned out to be pure fiction. Even when there's been a (coerced) confession.

[uwe]

You mean it's the modern inquisition?

[jmcgliss]

If some scribe hasn't coined this already, we're living in the Tattletale Economy - gold digging or vengeance through incendiary accusations and blackmail, made possible by a viral internet that infers 'credibility' to the accuser who originates the drama, but seemingly not to the accused's defense.

[Highlander]

... and the only winners are the "legal profession"...   

(nice collection, Uwe...  )