Guild M-85 II

bassman10096 · October 12, 2009, 09:12:58 AM

Looking forward to seeing the bass repaired. I too GAS'd for an M-85 for years before I finally found a beat up one I could afford in Canada (I'm in the US), went through all the shipping issues and got it. I did a bunch of mods, including a strip and refin (it really was trashed), new bridge (it had a Badass when it arrived) and Dark Stars. It wound up pretty good:

Looking forward to pix of yours. Best luck.

Highlander · October 12, 2009, 03:22:34 PM

Looks v

to me...

Basvarken · October 12, 2009, 03:31:54 PM

I will post pics when I get it back, repeaired and all.

I discussed a possible refin with the luthier. But he's rather not do it because it will lose all the mojo that this has gathered in 35 years.
Which means I've got some polishing to do when it returns...

And I need a genuine Guild volume knob...

Rob · October 12, 2009, 04:19:52 PM

What a beaut!

Pilgrim · October 12, 2009, 04:46:41 PM

That doesn't look reliced, just used appropriately. I think I'd just spiff it up and play it. I certainly wouldn't refin that one.

Chris P. · October 13, 2009, 12:50:02 AM

No refin!

I believe Hans Moust has a lot of spare parts, but I guess you've already checked him?

bassman10096 · October 13, 2009, 03:40:26 PM

QuoteThat doesn't look reliced, just used appropriately. I think I'd just spiff it up and play it. I certainly wouldn't refin that one.

+1 I wouldn't do anything but clean an polish it. I refinned mine because the finish was truly, ugly trashed. Yours looks like a distinguished warrior. Pretty bass.

Basvarken · October 14, 2009, 03:47:03 AM

Bad news:
just got a phone call from the luthier.
He thought he had it fixed, but when he restringed it and brought the strings up to tension the cracks opened up again.
The two component glue just won't hold in the places where it has been glued before.

And to make it worse, the trussrod appears to be bent/damaged.
The neck starts twisting when the trussrod is fastened.

It looks like it is going to need a new neck...

Bart! · October 14, 2009, 04:32:20 AM

Ow, that IS bad news...

Sorry to hear that.

gweimer · October 14, 2009, 07:18:09 AM

Ouch, indeed.

Dave W · October 14, 2009, 10:05:56 AM

Too bad. There may be another glue that would hold, but that won't be a solution if the truss rod is damaged.

Highlander · October 14, 2009, 03:18:24 PM

Bummer...

Fender-Guild...? Guild-Son...? If you have to go down that road, how hard will it be to trace a neck, or can your lu' make a "clone" for you...?

Basvarken · October 14, 2009, 03:24:00 PM

Quote from: Kenny Five-O on October 14, 2009, 03:18:24 PM
how hard will it be to trace a neck?

impossible I'd say.
He'd have to make new one...

Rob · October 14, 2009, 05:22:09 PM

Quote from: Basvarken on October 14, 2009, 03:47:03 AM
Bad news:
just got a phone call from the luthier.

It looks like it is going to need a new neck...
That's not a complete disaster by any means.
Might check out MIMM forum for ideas from builders.
Rob

drbassman · October 15, 2009, 05:49:16 AM

I'm gonna be contrary and say I'd remove the fret board entirely, thoroughly cleaning all old glue from the neck surface and then replace the rod and glue down a new board. Why wouldn't that work? Why a new neck? I'd do whatever I could to save the original neck unless it was beyond repair or warped out of shape significantly without any rod tension.

If the fret board isn't fastened down entirely, wouldn't that explain why the neck twists with truss rod tension? I'm not trying to be overly argumentative, but I've saved a few crummy necks by replacing the rod and fret board.

The neck was so busted up on my 60's NR TB, I did just as I said. Replaced everything but the neck itself and it's a great bass now. Just a thought.