Who's Missing From The R&R Hall of Fame?

SKATE RAT · November 17, 2008, 07:06:38 PM

a few years ago a friend of mine moved to Cali. and gave me a big box of records.mostly new wave/Brit stuff and every Yes album on vinyl with gatefold covers and i tried to sell them at every record store in NYC.nobody wanted them i couldn't even give them away.i ended up just leaving them on the street.i vote No to Yes. i'm into most RocknRoll from '51 'til today but there are 4 bands i just cant stand.Yes,Rush,Journey and Pink Floyd.they all put me to sleep.sorry.

Rhythm N. Bliss · November 17, 2008, 11:35:06 PM

Quote from: uwe on November 17, 2008, 05:10:30 AM
I can't believe that someone mentioned Doro! R&B you are an intrepid man!

I've been a HUGE fan of The Queen of Metal since 1990 when I got her self-titled cd produced by Gene Simmons. I got her earlier stuff with Warlock too & I just checked & sure enuf Warlock formed in 1983 so DORO qualifies--just barely! One of the R&R HoF requirements is you've gotta be a recording artist from a minimum of 25 years back in time.

Hey eb2~ Good to see some love for Yesterday & Today! They've been touring fairly extensively the last few years & even made it back over to Japan this year & got rave reviews. I've seen 'em about 25 times just since 2001 & saw 'em several times back in the 80s & a coupla times in the 90s too!! I've got all their albums & Meniketti's 2 solo albums too!!

SRV~ Good call
Is Rory Gallagher in there yet?

uwe · November 18, 2008, 05:49:23 AM

Rory would certainly deserve it. I'm hearing a lot of his stuff lately. The Irish Johnny Winter. I liked him best when he was not in "pedal to the floor" power trio mode (late seventies, early eighties, he became a bit pigeon holed in that, following the great 1976 Calling Card album he dissolved that line up, firing keyboardist Lou Martin and drummer Rod D'Ath, I think that was a grave mistake), but with keyboards, even horns and his Irish folk roots showing. There is something raw, yet sensitive about both his singing and his guitar playing.

Doro Pesch is a nice sincere person, but soooooooo limited as a singer. The Pat Benatars, Lee Aarons and Ann Wilsons of this world are in another league vocally.

Rhythm N. Bliss · November 18, 2008, 01:45:24 PM

Well I'll take DORO over Pat & Lee anyday & I saw both Heart & DORO this year & altho Ann's voice is INCREDIBLE I'll take Nancy over her for talent & looks & DORO over both of 'em!!
Of course you have to criticize her Uwe, cuz you do that to all my fav artists!!!!

Pilgrim · November 18, 2008, 04:23:37 PM

Absolutely - without a doubt - DICK DALE. His absence is a huge injustice.

Dave W · November 18, 2008, 04:59:16 PM

Despite his influence, Dick Dale never had a chart album or single, and most of the general public has never heard of him. That puts him at a severe disadvantage.

uwe · November 19, 2008, 10:24:04 AM

Quote from: Rhythm N. Bliss on November 18, 2008, 01:45:24 PM
Well I'll take DORO over Pat & Lee anyday & I saw both Heart & DORO this year & altho Ann's voice is INCREDIBLE I'll take Nancy over her for talent & looks & DORO over both of 'em!!
Of course you have to criticize her Uwe, cuz you do that to all my fav artists!!!!

Not true! Did I not selflessly stand by you when you shamelessly outed yourself as a fan of Daisy Coverdale!

Be honest to yourself, you only like her because you think her Tshörmän Akzent is so sexy (I find it aching), but in reality her range is limited, it's mostly sultry breathing on this track:

And "Breaking ze vot?" - an ill choice for an acoustic version - reminds me of Cher's lesser moments in the softer part and of a female Dee Snider in the harder part. Now Dee Snider is a great guy, but no Paul Rodgers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt1SfOo1lmU&feature=related

I actually prefer her singing in German, there are more nuances to her voice then (though she's no great singer in German either), listen to this here, once she switches to ze Änglisch it becomes all very one-dimensional.

That said, Doro is a nice enough person, lives for her fans and in a touchingly naive way is 100% sincere about her music. Never mind how she's adamant that her heavy metal image has to see her dress like a fifty buck hooker, a style advisor could work wonders on her.

I prefer female vocal performances like these here (a certainly non-comprehensive choice, I consciously picked poppy, but not yet easy listening, non-blues and non-folk stuff, so the Janis Joplins, Emmylou Harris'es, Karen Carpenters and Whitney Houstons of this world - all great singers - don't qualify - I even like Joan Baez' voice!):

(Gibson buffs will cherish the RD Artist of the bassist of her backing band which was in fact the Ian Hunter/Mick Ronson Band at the time)

I guess this here qualifies for folk/country influence after all (and it's sung live!):

And finally: Not singing well and dressing like a 50 Dollar hooker can be done in style after all:

Rhythm N. Bliss · November 19, 2008, 03:33:59 PM

DORO is the only German who ROOOOOLS besides you Uwe.
She gets my nut. heh

Just lookin' at the faces of these other ladies in the imbedded vids I can see that they don't qualify for the R&R Hall o' Fame!!!!!

...& you belong in the Hall of SHAME for callin' Coverdale Daisy.
Some WS fan you are!

lowend1 · November 19, 2008, 04:15:07 PM

Getting off topic here, but who cares...

nofi · November 19, 2008, 05:32:30 PM

i love motherstation. until now i felt like the only one who knew of them. doro and daisy indeed.

lowend1 · November 23, 2008, 07:28:33 AM

From the "beating a dead horse" dept., I thought of a couple more:

From www.classicbands.com:
From 1969-1974, nobody had more Top 10 hits, moved more records, or sold more concert tickets than Three Dog Night. During this period, they were undoubtedly the most popular band in America: twenty-one consecutive Top 40 hits, eighteen straight Top 20s, eleven Top 10s, seven number 1s, seven million-selling singles and twelve straight gold LPs. By late '75, they had sold nearly 50 million records. The band was unique for it's time, featuring three separate lead singers, Danny Hutton, Chuck Negron and Cory Wells.

...and naturally, Grand Funk Railroad belongs there too.

and, coincidentally, this very recent Gene Simmons mini-rant:
http://www.sleazeroxx.com/news08/1122kis.shtml

nofi · November 23, 2008, 08:23:17 AM

does anyone really give a rat's ass about anything simmons says at this point.

lowend1 · November 23, 2008, 08:55:51 AM

Quote from: nofi on November 23, 2008, 08:23:17 AM
does anyone really give a rat's ass about anything simmons says at this point.

Probably not, but his commentary is on the money (no pun intended).

Nocturnal · November 23, 2008, 10:05:43 AM

I seem to remember a similar rant from Alice Cooper a year or 2 ago on his radio show. (He may be in it now for all I know) He mentioned several bands that were going in that year that hadn't sold nearly the number of records, or weren't really universally known as Alice or the original band is.

I'm sure that like any organization there area lot of politics involved. Also I'm sure it comes down to a judge or board member not caring for an artist so wouldn't vote for them to go in. If public opinion counted, then I would imagine that the list of people that are in or out of the HOF would look a little different than it does.

Rhythm N. Bliss · November 24, 2008, 10:56:51 PM

Maybe you never heard my fav Doro song, Uwe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP4gmjYOKl4&feature=related

My fav song by any woman!