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This is disconcerting.
« on: February 29, 2024, 04:25:47 PM »
Imagine this happening to your wife, girlfriend or daughter.


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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2024, 05:10:53 PM »


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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2024, 06:01:55 AM »
I find it a bit crushing that this sort of tech could be used for good, but it always gets used for the shittiest purposes. There is so much hype around AI, and where it could be used improve services, products etc.

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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2024, 07:10:53 AM »
People ruin everything.

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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2024, 08:09:49 AM »
There is a balance to technology - and it seems that positive uses are always countered by inappropriate ones. That's sometimes part of the discussion in the class about technology and society that I teach online. There is so much + and - going on with technology today that it provides endless material for discussion. 

The course is part of a liberal arts degree in Ed Tech and Online Learning.  For the helluvit, here's the description:

THC-6250 Technology and the Human Community: Challenges and Responses

Technology and the Human Community: Challenges and Responses looks at technology historically and philosophically. The course focuses on technological issues affecting contemporary and emerging professional, public, and private structures. A central issue is the role of the citizen in dealing with political, economic, and social pressures related to technology. A key purpose of this course is for students to exchange views by engaging in and discussing serious social and technological issues with a view toward their resolution.
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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2024, 12:44:34 PM »
We need something like an electronic watermark for this type of material, clarifying to any viewer it has been manipulated. That doesn't do away with the discomfort the victims must feel seeing something like that (or even knowing that it is out there), but it does do away with the illusion that (i) something like that actually happened in real life, and (ii) involved their consent.
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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2024, 02:46:18 PM »
I've long come to the conclusion that this place would be a darn site better off without us ruining it...
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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2024, 06:18:20 PM »
Why, because that Corsair was AI-manipulated so you innocently mistook it for a Hellcat?

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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2024, 07:27:00 AM »
Of course...! :mrgreen:
Anyway... Quantum theories prove theorize everything has already happened and/or nothing is real...
And let's not forget that Descarte's ultimate conundrum is somewhat difficult to prove, so, there is no spoon Hellcat... :rolleyes: :mrgreen:

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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2024, 01:13:18 AM »
It's a real problem, all right, but it predates AI. It goes back to Photoshop's earliest days.

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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2024, 06:09:28 AM »
People were faking photographs when photography was in its infancy.

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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2024, 08:10:10 AM »
Sure, who doesn’t remember the “Now you see him, now you don’t”-Trotzki images Stalin had cleansed out of official Soviet state photography.

But a five-minute porn scene pretending to depict real people is of course a more substantial attack on your own integrity and privacy than just a single picture or blurry snapshot. I’d imagine the feeling of having been abused quite a bit more intensive.
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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2024, 10:50:55 AM »



Why, because that Corsair was AI-manipulated so you innocently mistook it for a Hellcat?

   


 Which was which?

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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2024, 07:11:49 PM »
I recently read that the Hellcat was a conservative design produced to perfection and the Corsair a cutting edge one sloppily executed. Quality issues abounded while the Hellcat was extremely reliable and well-made plus easy to service and repair.
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Re: This is disconcerting.
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2024, 09:19:04 AM »
I recently read that the Hellcat was a conservative design produced to perfection and the Corsair a cutting edge one sloppily executed. Quality issues abounded while the Hellcat was extremely reliable and well-made plus easy to service and repair.
 

 No doubt true, but Grumman had the Wildcat to draw upon and improve as practical knowledge, it was a good starting point, the recovery of a nearly intact Zero in the Aleutians gave the designers exactly what they needed to make a better aircraft. Chance Vought started somewhere else with the clean sheet of paper, the design was of course refined as time went on - like every successful fighter design in WWII. The Corsair lasted into Korea in a ground attack role and was highly regarded by it's pilots, the Hellcat finished WWII and was quickly replaced by the Bearcat, Tigercat and various jets. 
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