A sad day in Germany

[Dave W]

Techno is music, German court declares

[doombass]

I've always had split opinions about sequencing, samplings and DJ's performing as live artists. People do attend even arenas nowadays clapping and waving their hands rather than dance to the DJ's, so I guess we need to consider it concerts whether we like it or not. A work colleague of mine is a DJ who makes his "own" music and he freely admits he is no "real musician" in the sense he can't really play any traditional instrument. OTOH most of the sounds in techno you can't achieve using traditional instruments anyway.

[westen44]

I think I see where this may be headed.  Because before you know it some court may rule that bro-country is music.  The CMA Awards last night looked like a step in that direction.  Thankfully, I didn't watch the show, but I read about it. 

[Grog]

Just another piece of an over 100 year controversy. Wind up phonographs that played 78's (Victrolas) were considered musical instruments at the time. Musicians claimed that they were trying to replace live bands which sounded ridiculous at the time. Jump to the 70's, Disco was death to a lot of live music........

[Highlander]

Dave...!

Do Not Do That Again...!

I thought Uwe had sold a Gibson...

[westen44]

I think something like that would only happen if earth was about to be hit by a massive asteroid. 

[Dave W]

Dave...!

Do Not Do That Again...!

I thought Uwe had sold a Gibson...

You never know what might happen. He never bought that Gibson Bunny Brunel Bass. A few years ago, he would have snapped it up in a heartbeat.

[Rob]

You never know what might happen. He never bought that Gibson Bunny Brunel Bass. A few years ago, he would have snapped it up in a heartbeat.

The tremor before the quake.

[uwe]

There you have it, the sound of legally so determined Musik ...



Scooter is very popular in Germany, especially in, uhum, more rural areas, which earned them the name "Hicksville Techno".

My main contention with most forms of DJ- and club music is the absence of vocals. I need them to relate to music unless it is something like, say, Oldfield's Tubular Bells. That probably explains why most types of (instrumental) classical music and jazz never caught on with me, I can appreciate melody and arrangements, but without vocals there is something missing for me.

I don't have issues with Techno being qualified as music or as a form of  live art - I know too little about it to argue really otherwise. That it gained so widespread popularity in the last decades where it largely sacrifices lyrics as a form of expression always struck me as a sign of the times. There seemed to be little urge among youth and young adults to transport social concerns via music. Techno was/is a mostly mute hedonist, tribal dance exercise. With the desire for the voicing of social concerns seemingly in resurgence as of late, a  change might be in the air, we'll see.

[uwe]

The tremor before the quake.

Ze Kölleckshün is becoming a logistical nightmare. I neither have room for it at home nor at our future offices where we will soon be moving to! 

[TBird1958]

Ze Kölleckshün is becoming a logistical nightmare. I neither have room for it at home nor at our future offices where we will soon be moving to! 

Obviously. repatriation. I'm happy to securly store them for you 

[Alanko]

Germany invented techno.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awJTW80D2i8&ab_channel=fermium777

[uwe]

Yes, and not all of it is crap. There are Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, La Düsseldorf and what have you albums I like. Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here (the album) is heavily influenced by Krautrock sonic landscapes.

Fritz Lang's Metropolis, German marching and classical music, industry and factory aural environments of a Technik-smitten nation, psychedelia, modern composers like Stockhausen and Klaus Schulze are all ingredients of the primordial broth/Ursuppe that spawned this.

[Dave W]

Ze Kölleckshün is becoming a logistical nightmare. I neither have room for it at home nor at our future offices where we will soon be moving to! 

If you do sell some of it off, I hope you'll limit that to multiples.

[Pilgrim]

Perhaps open a small Gibson museum and charge admission? SHow videos of German techno bands playing Gibsons?