Change For The better

[Darrol]

I am still not a fan of Hillary because of her attempts to limit video games even more when they fall under freedom of speech.

Other than that I am one of those guys that does not care much about politics as I don't see how my single vote would make much of a difference. and when it comes down to it, the only thing that really matters to me is our freedom. With that said, I still don't like where they are going with RFID.

I am going to kind of have to agree though with what my mom said to me, I don't think America is quite ready for a female or African American president.

Plus, in the end I can't vote yet because I still haven't gotten the form I needed to sign in order to finish my registration.

[TBird1958]

Some of my favorite people are Queens!   

See America needs more Queens!.........

Ummmm Sorry......I just  can't be too serious.

[SKATE RAT]

one of the biggest concerns is that we have a seperation of church and state,but all the canidates on both sides of the fence are some kind of "christian".as an atheist this bothers me.we need people of reason to make decisions,not someone who belives in fairy tails.this will be my last post on "politics" 'cause my ideas will most likely offend people.and i like talkin' music and basses here.and i don't wanna mess that up. but i do kinda like obama.  -peace.

[Barklessdog]

one of the biggest concerns is that we have a separation of church and state,but all the candidates on both sides of the fence are some kind of "christian".as an atheist this bothers me.we need people of reason to make decisions,not someone who believes in fairy tails.this will be my last post on "politics" 'cause my ideas will most likely offend people.

I know Uwe's hope is that we can discuss this as adults without offending people. I'm not offended by anyone's views as I am an open minded person.


I have seen a car forum ripped in two from the discussion of politics, just as the country was. The problem becomes when people really take it personal. I am accepting of others, we will see how others fare.

[drbassman]

Well, I was a liberal for 30 years and I've grown into a conservative with age and experience.  For me, the Constitution trumps all of the discussions and distintictions between the parties.  I firmly believe the people get the government they deserve.  Previsouly and in the the future.

[Lightyear]

Politics and Religion are two topics that can turn any conversation nasty in very short order.  In business situations I avoid these two topics at all costs - and discuss them cautiously with the best of friends.  

I point out the obvious when I say that this is the most well behaved forum I have seen or participated in.

Given my druthers I would stick to the no politics or religion guideline.  JMO

[felig]

If Obama wins the Democratic nomination I would not be surprised to see an assassination attempt on him. I know a lot of people that would never tolerate a black man as president.

That's why I've advocated for Obama to recruit Dick Cheney as his VP choice.  That way more people would be trying to protect Obama than would be otherwise the case...I mean who would want Cheney in power with his finger on the button?  And, with Cheney being the marksman that he is would, Cheney  never could successfully take Barack out in a attempted coup d'etat.

On another, slightly more serious note--by the time of this year's general election I will be 60 years old.  I'm a white male of German & English ancestory & was raised a Methodist until I proclaimed myself to be an atheist at age 12.  The demographics of where I grew up were such that there were no African-American families, so I did not ever go to school with same.  However, in the 9th grade a Jewish kid started going to my school--he was the one & only. 
Having aired my WASP background & age, I want you to know that I am an Obama supporter & he is the person I hope to see in the White House for the next 2 presidential terms.  I registered as a Democrat in Dec. '07 for the sole purpose of being able to vote in our state's primaries.

I'm not saying anything negative about anyone else's candidate or party or political leanings--just the fact that here's one old, white who feels very positive about an African-American presidential candidate.  I don't support Clinton, but her sex has nothing to do with it--and I don't think her sex should make her a more appealing or less appealing candidate--it should be irrelevant.  It blows me away that with everything else happening in our country & our world that we should let race, sex, religion, etc. etc. even remotely enter the process.

But that's just me.

[Darrol]

If someone believes in something, I am not going to go and try and change their views. I accept everyone's opinion as their own and respect that.

[PhilT]

Some of my favorite people are Queens!   

See America needs more Queens!.........

Ummmm Sorry......I just  can't be too serious.

Queens rule!

[TBird1958]

Did she used to be a dude?.....Opp sorry! She's your Queen.

[SKATE RAT]

this is why you guys/gals/other rule.

[eb2]

I fear the worst in all situations.  The US dollar is faltering on the world currency market because it is an unsafe bet for investment.  Combine that with many financial forces actually betting against the dollar, trying to make it collapse, and the world is in for a fun ride.  This actually benefits nobody, outside of China, as many analysts have noted a euro exceding $1.50 US puts many European countries in danger of financial collapse as well.  The dollar's decline, contrary to many left-leaning beliefs, has virtually nothing to do with any of Bush's policies, but almost all to do with the fact that over 60% of the US budget is locked into uncapped entitlement spending and the US Govt has been deficit spending every year (that's right - there never were any surpluses under Clinton) for over 50 years.  The US Govt - financially - is a nut house and no one wants to deal with it.  That is maybe unfair as politicians from opposite ends of the spectrum (Forbes, Ron Paul, Jerry Brown) do point out the lunacy and get labeled as "fringe" or "unelectable."  I guess it is true.  So to deal with this financially unstable environment, our major candidates plan to fix things by nationalizing the health care system?  Cause, that is what Thomas Jefferson had in mind?  Foolishness. 
The war in Iraq, in my belief, was necessary, and would have happened no matter what.  I think the world is better off with the SOB dead, and a few European socialists losing out on their UN paychecks.  His behavior did pose a threat to the US.  After 9/11 and a review of universal belief in Iraq's military and weapons program, if Bush had not gone in, the Dems would have used it as an example of how he should not lead the country (and were gearing up to do that) .  The platform would not be one of pacifism, but of being ready and better militarily. Kerry did not pop out of a vaccuum. That is why they voted for it.  Bad idea?  Hindsight is a wonderful gift.  I remember 40 years of deficit spending and a war on poverty, and a Gulf of Tonkin.
   

[SKATE RAT]

what does Iraq have to do with 9/11 ?

[eb2]

In short, everything.  The basic premise of a hostile government in the area that had waged war several times on its neighbors, that did have WMD programs in place, and as far as the intelligence organizations of friend and foe alike were willing to state publicly, were working underground in that country, and had continually harassed and engaged allied military flights in the no-fly zone made the tenuous contacts between that govt and Al Qaeda unacceptable.  The Iraqi govt had attempted to assasinate a president, and made no secret of its intentions to continue to to not cooperate with weapons inspection or to curtail violating the no-fly zone.  It did not have anything to do with the planning of 9/11 as far as most can tell, but in the wake of that, the regime change program created by Clinton had to procede.  Again, if Bush hadn't, the next president - a Dem - would have.   

[Dave W]

This has been civil so far, but we're starting to veer off into foreign policy areas where people have extreme disagreements. Let's end this now while we're ahead. I don't want people leaving because of hard feelings about political or religious differences.