Ginger Baker critically ill

lowend1 · October 11, 2019, 09:48:53 AM

Quote from: uwe on October 11, 2019, 07:24:15 AM
Was he that much ahead of the Peter Greens of his time? I was too young to know and stand corrected. I even bought the Beano album only a few years back because I felt obliged to! Some records you just got to have in a proper collection, jawohl!

I had thought the whole Marshall thing only came with Cream. You live and learn.

I'm no Clapton-basher at all, none of his major moves were really commercially motivated. Leaving the Yardbirds for John Mayall, hardly a smart thing to do in the beat boom. Leaving Cream to become a solo singer/songwriter, a daft move in the beginning era of stadium rock where a continuing Cream would have been a money printing machine. He really always - sometimes stubbornly - followed his art, it's just that prevailing tastes changed and aligned with what he was doing: His "bluesy singer/songwriter with a wonderful lead guitar"-concept became a favorite as baby boomers aged.

There's a reason that the early Marshall JTM45 2x12 combo is referred to as a "Bluesbreaker". At some point Eric said in an interview that he ran the amp wide open for those sessions, and the legend of the cranked-up Marshall was born. The rumor of a Dallas Rangemaster treble booster in the signal path was both oft reported and incorrect. Clapton and the recording engineer have denied that one was used.
The Beano album preceded Green's most lauded work with Fleetwood Mac by a couple of years (remember who played bass in the Bluesbreakers at the time), and likewise Bloomfield, Beck, Page, and even Hendrix's Magna Cum Loud histrionics.

westen44 · October 11, 2019, 11:19:51 AM

Cream was always one of my favorite bands. I liked a lot of other things Eric Clapton was involved in,, too, all too much to try to mention. But at some point in his solo career he got bogged down. His music became too commercialized and boring. I don't even like most of the covers he did. I've gotten into discussions about this kind of stuff with a friend many times. He idolizes Clapton. I much prefer Hendrix. Although Hendrix was also beginning to get less interesting toward the end as he was trying to make a conscious decision to move away from rock. Of course all of this is IMHO.

Despite Eric Clapton's stunning achievements (going way way back, even to what he did on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps") I always was more interested in Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce. Maybe it's okay to say that on a Ginger Baker thread.

doombass · October 11, 2019, 02:59:38 PM

Quote from: uwe on October 09, 2019, 07:18:06 AM
Alan is allowed to play with fire a little - no band is sacrosanct here. Only Deep Purple - not that you guys ever give a crap about that!

Hrrm, I once happened to mention I think Herr Blackmore is sloppy in a kind of nonchalant way (though in a positive way since I like his approach) and that did'nt go by unnoticed from the resident Blackmore defender.

uwe · October 15, 2019, 04:33:19 PM

Did I hit you or anything? I don't remember!!!

Blackmore can be sloppy as hell. No denying.

ilan · October 22, 2019, 09:04:59 AM

Quote from: uwe on October 15, 2019, 04:33:19 PM
Blackmore can be sloppy as hell. No denying.

In the best possible manner.

doombass · October 22, 2019, 01:25:04 PM

Quote from: uwe on October 15, 2019, 04:33:19 PM
Did I hit you or anything? I don't remember!!!

Blackmore can be sloppy as hell. No denying.

Don't worry,. I was only a tiny bit slapped on the back of the head. No red buttock.

Your loss of memory is excused. It must have been the Dudepit era.

uwe · October 22, 2019, 01:41:02 PM

With our joint history, I was really worried!

doombass · October 23, 2019, 05:48:14 AM

In Sweden we mostly helped with train logistics and the occasional guided and guarded path between Norway and Finland.

Rob · October 23, 2019, 07:41:11 AM

Quote from: doombass on October 22, 2019, 01:25:04 PM
Don't worry,. I was only a tiny bit slapped on the back of the head. No red buttock. Your loss of memory is excused. It must have been the Dudepit era.

amptech · October 23, 2019, 10:58:06 PM

Quote from: doombass on October 23, 2019, 05:48:14 AM
In Sweden we mostly helped with train logistics and the occasional guided and guarded path between Norway and Finland.

...And now we pay you back by shopping all our candies, meat and booze in your country

doombass · October 24, 2019, 01:30:30 AM

Yup!

uwe · October 24, 2019, 11:37:37 AM

We should rename this place The Last Viking Outpost ...

Rob · October 24, 2019, 01:24:20 PM

Quote from: uwe on October 24, 2019, 11:37:37 AM
We should rename this place The Last Viking Outpost ...

With a Hagstrom sub?

westen44 · November 27, 2019, 07:05:12 AM

Eric Clapton is giving a Ginger Baker tribute concert.

https://pitchfork.com/news/eric-clapton-announces-ginger-baker-tribute-concert/

Dave W · November 27, 2019, 08:54:21 PM

Quote from: westen44 on November 27, 2019, 07:05:12 AM
Eric Clapton is giving a Ginger Baker tribute concert.

https://pitchfork.com/news/eric-clapton-announces-ginger-baker-tribute-concert/

Very good of Eric, and it benefits a charity.