I think I just scored another one... this time a '63

Started by ilan, February 13, 2018, 02:28:28 AM

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uwe

#15
February 15, 2018, 04:40:44 PM
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

uwe

#16
February 15, 2018, 05:54:12 PM
It must be some kind of natural incest allergy, but I remain unimpressed of German bass guitars, old or new!  :-[
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

ilan

#17
February 16, 2018, 01:48:30 AM
Quote from: uwe on February 15, 2018, 05:54:12 PM
It must be some kind of natural incest allergy, but I remain unimpressed of German bass guitars, old or new!  :-[
So you'll take an American Kay plywood upright over a Mittenwald carved bass?  ;)

patman

#18
February 16, 2018, 06:32:34 AM Last Edit: February 16, 2018, 06:57:40 AM by patman
Depends on what you're going to play with it.

Kay is better for Rock 'n Roll.

Lasts longer when playing Rock 'n Roll too...

Just sayin'

uwe

#19
February 16, 2018, 12:13:28 PM
Quote from: ilan on February 16, 2018, 01:48:30 AM
So you'll take an American Kay plywood upright over a Mittenwald carved bass?  ;)

Kay is LEGEND,



Mittenwald is, errrm, sehr deutsch!

I don't like Porsches for the same reason and would prefer a Corvette anytime. If you're gonna be superficial, do it with some depth.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Highlander

#20
February 16, 2018, 01:06:22 PM
Little red black Corvette Volvo... :mrgreen:
The random mind of a Silver Surfer...
If research was easy, it wouldn't need doing...
Staring at that event horizon is a dirty job, but someone has to do it; something's going to come back out of it one day...

uwe

#21
February 16, 2018, 03:20:12 PM
A classic, no less.

We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Highlander

#22
February 17, 2018, 02:28:36 AM
Is it still a Volvo you drive...? No need for the looooong hood in front of you to smooth the ego, or has the itch got to great and a sporty model beckons... ;)
The random mind of a Silver Surfer...
If research was easy, it wouldn't need doing...
Staring at that event horizon is a dirty job, but someone has to do it; something's going to come back out of it one day...

uwe

#23
February 21, 2018, 02:29:06 PM
I still have a Volvo of course! I'm on my way to sixty, no long hooded sports car in the world can do for me these days what a little blue pill reliably can.  :mrgreen:

I feel silly in two-seater sports cars. A man's car has to be able to transport something, it's the unfulfilled truck driver in me.  ;D Sports cars with no practical use are for wimmin only!
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

ilan

#24
February 21, 2018, 03:53:46 PM
The bass has arrived. Non-original bridge (not a problem, I have a spare one) and pickup ring (also a cheap part, no biggie).

Tuned to pitch, the neck just pulled off the body.

Informed the seller. I'll take it next week to my luthier to assess the damage. He can reset it, as he has done for me twice in the past, but I want the seller to refund the cost.

The pic was taken immediately after unboxing, strings still slack.

uwe

#25
February 21, 2018, 04:11:44 PM
Tur mir leid, Ilan. Old Höfner necks do come off - I've heard of it happening before and my 500/1 actually had two resets, those things weren't made to last for half-centuries and more.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Rob

#26
February 21, 2018, 06:13:05 PM
That shouldn't be too difficult a repair.
I thought they used hide glue.

uwe

#27
February 21, 2018, 06:15:35 PM
Naw, that was shortly after ze war, we still had food stamps and ate the hide glue. On Sundays.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Dave W

#28
February 21, 2018, 10:27:16 PM
That's unfortunate but if it came off cleanly, it's repairable.

Quote from: Rob on February 21, 2018, 06:13:05 PM
That shouldn't be too difficult a repair.
I thought they used hide glue.

No idea if Höfner used hide glue on the neck joint. Whether or not, don't believe the hype about hide glue being permanent. I've seen hide glue joints that have broken, or failed due to movement after softening (probably from heat or excess humidity).

ilan

#29
February 21, 2018, 11:40:54 PM
Hofner have always used hide glue in the neck joint, and still do.

Hide glue is very thin and very strong - it holds upright bass necks, and the string pull is more than twice that of a bass guitar.

The advantage of hide glue, and the reason it is used in violin family instruments, is that it is not permanent - it comes apart with heat. So in a way it's like a bolt-on neck - you can always remove the neck without damage to the joint surfaces, do whatever you need to do - like change the neck angle - and re-glue it into place. Once it's done by a pro (preferably violin makers), the bass is good for another 30-40 years.

I don't recommend using anything but hide glue on Hofner set-necks. With other glues you can still sometimes be able to remove the neck, I've seen it done, but there will be damage to the neck joint and a lot more work will need to be done to re-glue it - with hide glue.
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