Modern double mud

[gearHed289]

Saw this on the 'bay this morning. I dig it! Decent price too. I recently acquired something from a forum member (report coming soon), so I'm not on this at all. I know they're not REAL mudbuckers, but I bet it sounds good.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/282681141095?ul_noapp=true

[Pilgrim]

Looks good, but the seller isn't particularly generous with info.  "Excellent Condition - Small ding in the back - See Pictures."

It appears to be short scale (20 frets), but it would be nice to note that.

[Highlander]

Small "ding" on the back loooks like they had a strap button there... not a fan of the bridge...

[uwe]

Small "ding" on the back loooks like they had a strap button there... not a fan of the bridge...

You can tell by the bridge position, that type of bridge (not really the replacement for a two point but for a three point) would almost fall off a long scale SG shape bass, it would be that far back.

[patman]

Isn't the original mini-bucker essentially the same pickup as the larger one? What have they accomplished here?

[Granny Gremlin]

Isn't the original mini-bucker essentially the same pickup as the larger one? What have they accomplished here?

Nope - have you seen the guts of a mudbucker; won't fit, not even close.

Also someone above said they ain't real mud (the covers certainly look like modern Artecs etc)... which are just as big under the cover  but don't sound the same or even close really.

[hieronymous]

This is my personal favorite double-mud - vintage though

https://youtu.be/PNo1VqARE7Y?t=3m16s

[uwe]

Dave Holland (before his career with Judas Priest), very lyrical playing.

[Dave W]

Looks good, but the seller isn't particularly generous with info.  "Excellent Condition - Small ding in the back - See Pictures."

It appears to be short scale (20 frets), but it would be nice to note that.

It's an SG Bass, they're all short scale. He should have mentioned it, though.

Isn't the original mini-bucker essentially the same pickup as the larger one? What have they accomplished here?

The TB Plus (neck) has 2 widely separated blades with a ceramic magnet beneath. I believe the mini-bucker has polepieces and an alnico magnet.

[amptech]

This is my personal favorite double-mud - vintage though

Nice.. But what kind of pickups is he using?

[doombass]

I wonder also. Looks like eight poles on both pickups. Early DiMarzio metal cover Model Ones?

[hieronymous]

Dave Holland (before his career with Judas Priest), very lyrical playing.

It's actually Steve Swallow (after his gay porn career?  )

Someone in this thread just says it's got "custom pickups" but someone else says they ended up with the bass:

I am sad to report that the Gibson EB2 pictured in the top picture was purchased by me in the mid 90s when I was doing a lot of riding around in a van, jumping around and crashing into guitar players who were doing the same. Said instrument met an untimely demise one night when I tossed it high in the air, got a light in my eye and completely missed it as it went past my outstretched arm and hit the ground- shearing the headstock clean off, smashing the top of the body and spilling some of the custom electronics across the front row. I solemnly polished the remains and put them in my bass case. Bits of teh bass hang in several Boston area repair shops as a reminder of my stupidity.

It was a great sounding bass and it took me a long time to find another instrument that I had such a personal connection with. I would have liked another 60s Gibson, but couldn't afford one. All of Steve's modifications devalued the bass and I actually bought it for $500 originally.

[Dave W]

I wonder also. Looks like eight poles on both pickups. Early DiMarzio metal cover Model Ones?

Model Ones still have metal covers. AFAIK DiMarzio never made them with chrome covers; looks to me like those are standard black cover Model Ones with stage lights reflecting off them.

[gearHed289]

Model Ones still have metal covers. AFAIK DiMarzio never made them with chrome covers; looks to me like those are standard black cover Model Ones with stage lights reflecting off them.

I agree. Looks black with some finish worn off. Swallow was an unsung innovator. When people make stupid comments about playing bass with a pick, I always bring up his name. 

As far as chrome covers, I don't know. This might have just been painted.

[doombass]

Model Ones still have metal covers. AFAIK DiMarzio never made them with chrome covers; looks to me like those are standard black cover Model Ones with stage lights reflecting off them.

Sorry, I meant metal as in naked or chrome or nickel surfaced as opposed to the black or cream/white finished ones. I thought I read somewhere that the early Model Ones were like that. Maybe some early users (like Gene for example) just polished the finish off?