Lap King? NR

Started by 66Atlas, September 21, 2017, 11:18:17 AM

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66Atlas

Never heard of Lap King but looks like it was started by a former Hamer employee that builds Lap Steels.  It's a pretty cool take on a NR.

https://reverb.com/item/6613750-custom-lap-king-thunderbird-bass-non-reverse-style-by-jason-dumont


Granny Gremlin

Dead sexy.  Very well done.
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

Basvarken

Gorgeous.
But a bit of a weird story about that headstock. Rosewood on back and front for strength?
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Granny Gremlin

a little seller's hyperbole. 
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

66Atlas

3 piece quartersawn Korina with a volute should have been more than sufficiently strong indeed, but I like the look of the rosewood on the face as a feature.  A trans finish would have looked amazing I bet.

Dave W

Rosewood would definitely add stiffness to the headstock. Not sure why that would be necessary though.

Nice looking work.

Basvarken

Definitely?

Rosewood has an open grain structure. If you use only a thin sheet of -let's say 2 mm- it'll be very vulnerable and brittle.
I have my doubts about the added strength.

Esthetic reasons I can understand.

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gearHed289

That's pretty sexy! Seems like a nice price too if you want a good quality non-rev.

Dave W

Quote from: Basvarken on September 22, 2017, 02:38:02 AM
Definitely?

Rosewood has an open grain structure. If you use only a thin sheet of -let's say 2 mm- it'll be very vulnerable and brittle.
I have my doubts about the added strength.

Esthetic reasons I can understand.

Grain structure has nothing to do with it. Depending on the particular species, rosewoods are 2 to 3 times stiffer than korina. Even a 2mm front and back overlay of rosewood would be stiffer than an all-korina headstock of the same total thickness.

I've seen back strap overlays of stiffer woods used in headstock repair. Some acoustic guitar luthiers do this routinely on new builds.

amptech

Quote from: Basvarken on September 22, 2017, 02:38:02 AM
Definitely?

Rosewood has an open grain structure. If you use only a thin sheet of -let's say 2 mm- it'll be very vulnerable and brittle.
I have my doubts about the added strength.

Esthetic reasons I can understand.

Ebony is brittle as well when thin, but stiffens even in thinner sheets than 2mm. My project korina explorer bass headstock went from rubber soft to rock solid just by replacing the black plastic top sheet with ebony veneer. It's not brittle or vulnerable anymore when glued to the headstock wood.

uwe

Being stiff and brittle is non-exclusive. A material can be both.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Dave W

Quote from: uwe on October 04, 2017, 01:58:24 PM
Being stiff and brittle is non-exclusive. A material can be both.

True but irrelevant. Even a very brittle wood is not going to break from brittleness when it's glued to the face or back of a headstock. And rosewood isn't brittle.

uwe

All that said, these days I find myself more brittle than stiff.  :-\
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Dave W

Quote from: uwe on October 10, 2017, 02:21:32 PM
All that said, these days I find myself more brittle than stiff.  :-\

You need to work on that. Emulate Hugh Hefner. He kept it up until the end (with medicinal help) and now he's eternally stiff.

uwe

#14
But I get a running nose from Viagra! Sniff to be stiff.  ;D

Hugh is a loss. In all his artficiality he was absolutely authentic. In any case, they only ordered him to heaven for the interviews.  8)
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...