Gibson and Kiss fans take note...

Started by lowend1, March 14, 2016, 07:15:28 PM

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Dave W

Quote from: uwe on March 17, 2016, 12:25:28 PM
I don't really like symetric guitar shapes that much - with the Flying V (and maybe the Punisher, which has a 24-fret access and no neck-dive by the way, the Mon(k)ey basses didn't neck-dive either though they were double-octave too) being the noteworthy exception. Give me Rics, Thunderbirds, Ovation Magnum and Explorers any day. Angular shapes speak with me more. It's my Art-Deco penchant I guess.

Rippers, Grabbers, G-3s I just like because they are so endearingly ugly someone has to care for them!

You must like the SG shape though. You have several. Maybe you just don't like the rounded horns and the symmetrical shape together.

Granny Gremlin

SGs aren't (or weren't always; it morphed a bit over the years) symetrical either.
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

uwe

Quote from: Dave W on March 18, 2016, 03:02:47 PM
You must like the SG shape though. You have several. Maybe you just don't like the rounded horns and the symmetrical shape together.

Yeah, I like SGs - and red leather pants!

We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

uwe

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on March 18, 2016, 05:46:20 PM
SGs aren't (or weren't always; it morphed a bit over the years) symetrical either.

Can't we just drown Jake somewhere in the Thousand Islands Region?
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

66Atlas

I like symmetry up top with a big bottom.  :-X

I fell in love with the look of the early Pedulla because it had (almost) symmetrical dual horns and Les Paul style'd bottom. But that thing DEFINES neck dive!  Still fun to play every now and then if I feel like a light left arm workout.

Granny Gremlin

Quote from: uwe on March 22, 2016, 05:40:55 AM
Can't we just drown Jake somewhere in the Thousand Islands Region?

Hey cool; coming to visit?  :P

If you don't mind, I'd rather a nice peaceful secluded lake in Algonquin park - that's where Canadians like to be disapearred. 

Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

Pilgrim

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on March 22, 2016, 06:27:56 AM

If you don't mind, I'd rather a nice peaceful secluded lake in Algonquin park - that's where Canadians like to be disapearred.

It''ll have to be there, since they're not building any football stadiums in New Jersey at the moment.
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Dave W

Quote from: uwe on March 22, 2016, 05:40:55 AM
Can't we just drown Jake somewhere in the Thousand Islands Region?

Getting on your nerves, eh? :mrgreen:

Quote from: 66Atlas on March 22, 2016, 05:52:18 AM
I like symmetry up top with a big bottom.  :-X



Granny Gremlin

Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

uwe

#39
"Getting on your nerves, eh?"

I've discarded any such thing as "nerves" in this place long ago ...



I'm repeating myself (as I tend to): Hetfield has become a dead ringer for Eric Bloom vocally (tho less agile in the high parts), why am I the only one to notice?

The day "His Majestic Persistence, Jake the First" would no longer lavish us here with his argumentative resilience and hairsplitting scintillating distinctions would be a sad day indeed. Let's not be fragile about the youthful enthusiasm of our favorite Cantrarian in getting a point across once or twice or thrice ...



Also, I understand that Jake's name is a derivation of the Polish word "jak" which means - he'll no doubt correct me if I'm wrong - "How?" or "What?", therefore paying full homage to an inquisitive and always questioning mind.  :)

I think I put that nicely.  8)

We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Granny Gremlin

ROFL

(I'm actually a Jakub, but I like your version better).
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

lowend1

Featured in the April '17 issue of Bass Player magazine:
At that price, a niche market for sure - the builder obviously doesn't frequent the Outpost.

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gearHed289

I played this yellow one recently - https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/rock-n-roll-relics-thunders-bass-tv-yellow-serial-16486 It's a cool little bass, but it immediately reminded me of what I didn't like about my former Hamer B12S. I can handle short scale, but the way they inset the neck way into the body makes it feel small and cramped like a guitar. I did not plug it in, so I can't comment on tone.

Granny Gremlin

#43
Ha, I see that now - neck joins body at the 17th fret.

To be fair, the original Gibson was the same in that regard.  I suspect the reason was a) lets not let bass players think they're allowed up there and b) that way the bridge is all the way back at the butt end (like a long scale).

Funny thing is, the guitar version has the neck join at the 22nd fret.  Even an SG shape EB0/3 has the joint at the 18th (but due to the cutout shape you can easily reach the 19th which I have used  a lot... I suspect that's not the case with the DC shape).  The SG guitar has the joint at the 22nd fret

Way to take a body shapes designed for excellent upper fret access and f*** it up - typical Gibson.

Also thanks for the relief of my gas pains.
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

Dave W

Quote from: gearHed289 on March 08, 2017, 08:58:10 AM
I played this yellow one recently - https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/rock-n-roll-relics-thunders-bass-tv-yellow-serial-16486 It's a cool little bass, but it immediately reminded me of what I didn't like about my former Hamer B12S. I can handle short scale, but the way they inset the neck way into the body makes it feel small and cramped like a guitar. I did not plug it in, so I can't comment on tone.

At the other extreme, ESP made a long scale version in the 90s with 24 frets all clear of the body. I wanted to love it but the neck dive was terrible.