The way they should have sounded ...

Started by uwe, July 12, 2023, 11:16:23 AM

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uwe

... before Todd Rundgren was unleashed on them (and vice versa!). The original 1972 New York Dolls demos (lovingly remastered) that got them a recording contract:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DFBM2uI-z0&list=OLAK5uy_mCXD2DzrFUAfJwgqWJin0Km3EOPNZOE7M&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5rH8B7IVf8&list=OLAK5uy_mCXD2DzrFUAfJwgqWJin0Km3EOPNZOE7M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpyZ8amAWD4&list=OLAK5uy_mCXD2DzrFUAfJwgqWJin0Km3EOPNZOE7M&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DFBM2uI-z0&list=OLAK5uy_mCXD2DzrFUAfJwgqWJin0Km3EOPNZOE7M&index=2

I love Todd Rundgren, but setting him up with the Dolls was bound to fail. They should have picked Eddie Kramer, Jack Douglas, Bob Ezrin or Glyn Johns to produce them, someone of that ilk.

Shows just how late 60ies/early 70ies stones'y they were, very 'Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!'.

Mark, why didn't the Nasty Habits ever cover the Dolls? Too obvious, too East Coast or too cult?
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TBird1958



We never did cover any Dolls stuff, a bit obscure for most of our crowds, especially after we really got going. Our demographic worked out to be females 25-55, they don't know that stuff and playing it won't get you paid, or asked back!
But, that doesn't mean that I don't like it, I love Slade, but we'll never, ever play any!
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uwe

We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Ken

Fun fact: Neil Giraldo played guitar and bass on the recordings of Jessie's Girl and I've Done Everything For You.

uwe

Yeah, you can hear that Pat Benatar sound on those songs, his rhythm guitar is pretty much unmistakable. He's greatly underrated as a guitarist.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Ken

After learning more about Neil, it was fun revisiting some old Pat Benatar albums. There are some really fun and creative guitar parts on there.

uwe

People make fun of it, but nearly all of that late 70ies/early 80ies AOR/arena-pop-semi-hard-rock-schlock was very skillfully made, an American art form.







We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

TBird1958

Quote from: uwe on July 12, 2023, 12:57:39 PM
Yeah, you can hear that Pat Benatar sound on those songs, his rhythm guitar is pretty much unmistakable. He's greatly underrated as a guitarist.


He's a great player, I saw Pat B very early on, Scott St. Sheets was still in the band as rhythm guitarist, very good show, they opened for Billy Squier. 
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