Interesting online auction

Started by Dave W, April 17, 2023, 10:48:42 PM

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Dave W

Not many basses but several vintage Gibsons.
https://bid.estate360.com/auction/limited-edition-guitar-collection-online-auction-in-san-luis-obispo-ca-841/bidgallery/perpage_NjA

Lot #0051 (on page 1) is allegedly a Melody Maker bass but it's a slothead. Never saw a slothead Melody Maker bass before. Could be a refinned (and maybe repaired) EB-0.
Lot #0124 (on page 2) LP Triumph
Lot #0135(on page 3) 1969 LP Bass

Also, a couple of newer ones.
Lot #0150 (on page 3) 2005 Thunderbird listed as a Firebird bass
Lot #0182 (on page 3) 2008 SG Bass

All at reasonable prices right now but there are nearly 5 days left.




Alanko

Always suspect clean solid-colour Gibson basses! That Pelham blue looks too fresh. The Badass bridge suggests modifications.

Basvarken

Oh no doubt that it's a refin. Look at the serial number that is barely visible anymore
www.brooksbassguitars.com
www.thegibsonbassbook.com

Dave W

I've never seen a Melody Maker bass outside of 1967-68, no matter what the serial number suggests. I've never seen a slothead earlier than 1970, although allegedly a few were shipped in late 1969. For that reason alone, I don't think it's legit. You never know with Gibson, but I can't imagine an economy model being special ordered that late.

uwe

I'm not aware of a Melody Maker bass with a Slothead headstock ever existing. It would have been a self-defeating concept as Melody Makers were budget products (with eg cheapo Far East tuners) whereas a Slothead construction necessitated expensive Schaller tuners.

The Badass bridge OTOH is of course value- and function-enhancing as any replacement of the dreaded two-point would be.  :P

It could have been a one-off Frankenstein built from wood shop leftovers long after both Melody Makers and Slotheads had ceased production.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

ilan

#5
~1970 EB-0 slothead that was routed for additional pickup(s) and controls, then repainted and a Melody Maker-style pickguard was made to hide the routs (or the witness lines of a plugged rout).

Real Melody Maker guards have an output jack hole, this one doesn't because slotheads have a side mounted jack. Also, Melody Makers don't have a back rout, this one does.

It could be re-modded to an EB-3, another refin will be needed for that.


uwe

#6
Ah, Ilan, ever the perceptive observer, reconnaissance is key - all true!



Melody Makers also had maple necks IIRC, Slotheads always maho ones.

FWIW, I think that bass is nicely done and probably sounds and plays better than any real Melody Maker ever.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Dave W

Quote from: ilan on April 18, 2023, 07:59:11 AM
~1970 EB-0 slothead that was routed for additional pickup(s) and controls, then repainted and a Melody Maker-style pickguard was made to hide the routs (or the witness lines of a plugged rout).

Real Melody Maker guards have an output jack hole, this one doesn't because slotheads have a side mounted jack. Also, Melody Makers don't have a back rout, this one does.

It could be re-modded to an EB-3, another refin will be needed for that.


Good eye!

Refin in a solid color is more likely to be hiding a neck repair.

Quote from: uwe on April 18, 2023, 08:12:22 AM


Melody Makers also had maple necks IIRC, Slotheads always maho ones.

FWIW, I think that bass is nicely done and probably sounds and plays better than any real Melody Maker ever.

No, the Melody Makers had mahogany necks. I don't recall Gibson using maple necks on anything before the early 70s.

You can see the mahogany at a few points in the early minutes of this recent video, for example, starting at 4:09.



uwe

Alas!, I mistook them with the Kalamazoomphs! They were the budget version of the budget version.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Dave W

That's right, the Kalamazoos had bolt-on maple necks.