Yup, another newbie...

[chromium]

Hey - Battles!  I remember them...  Some other groups I dug in that vein (well, sorta) are Maps and Atlases, Pterodactyl, and Parts & Labor.

Speaking of "toying with the beat" and drums as a melodic instrument, it made me think of some polyrhythmic stuff I saw Chris Dave doing in a trio here with Foley (ex Miles piccolo bassist, and pretty accomplished drummer in his own right).  This is a sonic mashup of a Thelonious Monk song, and bass ostinato was from some rap song (Jurassic 5 was the band, but I forget the song name...):




I've also been into Dave King lately.  He's done some cool stuff with The Bad Plus too- jazz covers of Aphex Twin, Pixies, etc...




Drums are actually my favorite instrument.  Maybe comes from so many years of being glued to a drummer in bands?  My ears always go straight to the drums.  (...oh and I do like Ian/DP for the record, just to remain in good standing here  )


Oh- and welcome aboard, drummer5359!

[uwe]

For the avoidance of doubt: I don't mind dragging behind the beat once in a while, that can sound good. But was Bonzo ever ahead of the beat except where he rushed a roll? His drumming never seemed fluid to me. At the same time I always liked the way Bill Ward "swung" with Sabbath while the other two, Toni and Geezer, didn't. That was idiosyncratic with the Sabs.