Low Volume Songcrafting

Started by Rhythm N. Bliss, June 24, 2008, 10:41:28 PM

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Rhythm N. Bliss

No matter how much advice I got to turn down at rehearsals, I always MAXED OUT the VOLUME when JAMMING with my buds & SOUNDPROOFED THE HELL OUTA MY STUDIO to do it.

We're in the recording process now tho & had a great breakthrough tonight.
The guitard in my trio pushes us to DEAFENING SOUND LEVELS & wants to run my P.A. Mono instead of Stereo so IT'LL BE TWICE AS LOUD!!
I told him NO, my ears have been ringing enuf as it is. >sheesh<
Well he was too tired to play tonight, so Joe & I left the windows & shutters open & played low volume---strongly but gently!!
We laid down 4 BASIC TRACKS & got a PERFECT MIX with the playback sounding Just Right with the vocals unstrained & LOUD an' CLEAR & predominant, instead of screaming at the top of our lungs & still being drowned out.

Joe & I are becoming a really SOLID RHYTHM SECTION!!

I recommend working with your drummer alone from time to time, low volume, without the static of a damned guitard. ....especially when you're laying down Basic Tracks for recordings!!!
QUANTUM LEAPS!!!!

We could BREATHE & understand my lyrics!!! ...& no neighbors complained & no cops showed up!!

SKATE RAT

the guitar player in my band just had a baby,so over the last few weeks he's missed band practice a few times.you are absolutely right.jammin' just drums,bass and vocals has made us much tighter as a unit.but i don't think we played any lower than before.recording at a lower vol. is good but i like to play loud both at practice and shows.your instrument just feels more alive.
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rahock

I grew up in LOUD mode too and have some degree of hearing damage myself, probably about the same degree most of us here have . I guess there should be a lesson in that..........I wonder what it might be ???.

When I do an acoustic or electric acoustic night and keep things at a much more reasonable volume, my vocal control and technique is greatly improved , as is my endurance .

Electric nights are a whole different story. I'm always on the edge (or over the edge) of blowing out my throat and I have to be careful to keep songs in the proper order of  soft vs. scream so I still have some pipes left later in the evening. The worst thing is when you push too hard early in the evening. Once I cross that threshold I'm pretty much shot for the night. The ability of the PA isn't really the issue either, it's more a matter of someones' instrument continually inching its' way up bit by bit through the night and then me playing catch up by pushing just a little bit more to compensate. I know what the problem is but it still happens way too often >:(

When you can keep the volume just a bit lighter you can still get the hard hitting vocals done with  a little technique (other than screaming technique), and still have the juice to get the soft stuff done regardless of the order of the songs.

Rick

Rhythm N. Bliss

This evening we added backup vocals & percussion tracks to what we laid down last week. Couldn't get the guitarist/recording engineer to add guitar or Edit what we did last week, so we just recorded over the flubs & screwed up verses & tonight's session went real well.

Then I finally got my bud Steve to Edit it all & we've got 4 great songs, over a half hour total!!!!

YES!!!! I'm very happy with the progress we're making....

Can't wait to hear these scratch tracks completed with guitar & keys.
One is a real cool Funk groove. I luvvit! Makes you wanna get out on the floor & get funky with ya bad self. haha
The lyrics are CLEAR! ...for now.
We'll see what happens to 'em by the Final Mix...

Barklessdog

I would seriously invest in some custom ear plugs, because you're permanently damaging your ears.


I wish I had. I have a fair amount of Tinnitus all the time.
QuoteTinnitus is the ringing, buzzing, crackling, or hissing sound heard inside one or both ears. Tinnitus is a result of the brain attempting to "rewire" itself when the ear has become damaged, resulting in a ringing noise. Sufferers of tinnitus can experience a wide range of noise creating a minor annoyance to debilitating pain depending on its severity.




chromium

#5
Tinnitus came on this year for me.  Not sure yet what the cause is/was for me.  A number of things can contribute to it.

In the process of getting checked out, I found that I have a big notch at 4000hz - probably due to "environmental noise" (aka loud music).  My hearing looks a lot like this - but both ears are the same, and the loss is all in the "normal" range, but right at the bottom of that range at 4000hz:



http://www.aafp.org/afp/20000501/2749.html


I have some musicians earplugs that I've used for a long time, but I didn't always use them consistently - and all it takes is once!  They work pretty good, and let most frequency ranges thru - something like these:

http://www.westone.com/index.php?load=catalog&page=ety&group_id=ETYHP


Rhythm N. Bliss

Wow~ Lots of sympathy to you guys with hearing damage.
I've been lucky. I must have ears of IRON. Better be careful tho.
I've stood right up front at Deep Purple & White Zombie with their songs blasting out so LOUD it was almost PAINFUL!!
I've experienced RINGING in my ears that lasted halfway thru the day after a show, but fortunately it always went away.

These Summer sessions with no air conditioning REQUIRE windows & shutters wide open in the studio, so we GOTTA play low volume, & it's working out GREAT so far.

We might even record an UNPLUGGED cd. :D