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Dave W

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Sounds like sour grapes to me
« on: January 22, 2021, 10:08:59 AM »
Report: Bob Dylan Sued by Co-Writer’s Widow Over Claim to Catalog Sale

Her late husband didn't have any ownership of the songs. Meritless suit, IMHO, but she'll probably get paid to go away.

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2021, 09:50:13 PM »
Desire is my favorite Dylan album though!  :mrgreen: I liked that whole Rolling Thunder Revue era.

She'll still get royalties from Universal, nothing has changed in that respect. Of course, Desire's biggest hit at the time, Hurricane, is no longer performed by Dylan or other people because "it has achieved its purpose", consequently it has little airplay as well. (It's my favorite Dylan tune.)

Whether she can prove a "you'll get 35% from whatever I get out of this"-arrangement is another matter. I wouldn't rule out that something as encompassing might have been intended back in the day. Interesting.  :popcorn:
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2021, 11:49:28 PM »
Desire is my favorite Dylan album though!  :mrgreen: I liked that whole Rolling Thunder Revue era.

She'll still get royalties from Universal, nothing has changed in that respect. Of course, Desire's biggest hit at the time, Hurricane, is no longer performed by Dylan or other people because "it has achieved its purpose", consequently it has little airplay as well. (It's my favorite Dylan tune.)

Whether she can prove a "you'll get 35% from whatever I get out of this"-arrangement is another matter. I wouldn't rule out that something as encompassing might have been intended back in the day. Interesting.  :popcorn:

Back in the late 80s, a friend of mine went to see Dylan in concert. Part way through the show, somebody near the front started yelling out "Hurricane! Play Hurricane!" - ad infinitum. Finally, Bob stepped up to the mic and said (switch to Dylan voice) - "I aint playin' no Hurricane - he was guilteeee."
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2021, 05:52:25 AM »
His Bobness at his usual good-natured self.  8)
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2021, 06:49:43 AM »
Dylan was set to play here in Halifax , but being winter his gear was delayed in Nfld and they managed to reschedule . A friend was in one of the downtown bars and discovered he was chatting with Dylan's soundman . So he had to ask what Dylan was really like .
The soundguy said "he's an arrogant little bastard "
My friend said "perfect ... I wouldn't expect anything less"

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2021, 02:13:17 PM »
Back in the late 80s, a friend of mine went to see Dylan in concert. Part way through the show, somebody near the front started yelling out "Hurricane! Play Hurricane!" - ad infinitum. Finally, Bob stepped up to the mic and said (switch to Dylan voice) - "I aint playin' no Hurricane - he was guilteeee."

I saw Bob about ten years ago in Glasgow. After the first half an hour or so somebody shouted "play something we know!" in a broad Glaswegian accent. This wasn't acknowledged, figuratively or literally, from the stage. We got some classics later on, but I still don't know what the first numbers were. According to the web he opened with Maggie's Farm! All I remember is seeing a guy with a white hat playing an organ, and that was Bob.

The lights went down after every number, and there was zero rapport with the audience. Just another night on the road for Bob, I guess.

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2021, 09:20:06 PM »
No two Dylan gigs are alike. That drives some people nuts, I love him for it. I remember a gig in Saarbrücken where he played 80% 12 bar songs no-one was acquainted with. I enjoyed it greatly.

He fearlessly dismantles his legacy every night and reassembles it again as the mood strikes him - that's art.

BTW: He's stopped playing guitar and started playing piano/organ because of the arthritis in his hands.
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2021, 10:28:46 PM »
Bob Dylan impresses me about as much as... well, I was gonna say a slug but I like slugs.  -- Captain Beefheart

But seriously, how can you not like Bob, at least on some level.

I've posted this before.


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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2021, 08:40:48 AM »
It's a popular misconceptions that memorable artists must somehow also be nice people ... More often they're not. The list is endless Miles Davis, Picasso, Andy Warhol, David Bowie, Ernest Hemingway, Roger Waters, Marlon Brando ...

And - of course, as all roads lead to him - Blackmore.
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