NBD: RNR Thunderbird

Started by Ken, December 28, 2020, 10:57:05 AM

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ajkula66

Quote from: BklynKen on January 04, 2021, 02:42:46 PM
My friend Greta Brinkman plays the same way.  No great links, but she's played with L7, Moby, and a bunch of other bands.

I forgot to say...nice project on your end... :toast:
"...knowledge is a deadly friend when no one sets the rules..." (King Crimson)

My music: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKh45r6zj5Mti2qalpHfROjxWtSB_HyUT

uwe

Quote from: doombass on January 04, 2021, 02:28:29 PM
BTW, both my sons are left-handed.

What a lovely coincidence, Doomy, isn't your best friend too?
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Ken

Quote from: ajkula66 on January 04, 2021, 05:35:59 PM
I forgot to say...nice project on your end... :toast:

Thanks!  I was just playing with a friend tonight at his place, just bass and guitar.  The RNR felt great.

uwe

I saw Bowie play guitar with Tin Machine, he was no slouch. The whole Diamond Dogs album is just him and with all due respect to the many great players he's had (Mick Ronson, Carlos Alomar, Earl Slick, Robert Fripp, Adrian Belew, Nile Rodgers, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Peter Frampton, Reeves Gabrels), it's the album whose guitar playing I like the best. Its stripped down, almost punkish guitar went well with the dystopian theme of DD.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Ken

Quote from: uwe on January 04, 2021, 07:12:50 PM
I saw Bowie play guitar with Tin Machine, he was no slouch. The whole Diamond Dogs album is just him and with all due respect to the many great players he's had (Mick Ronson, Carlos Alomar, Earl Slick, Robert Fripp, Adrian Belew, Nile Rodgers, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Peter Frampton, Reeves Gabrels), it's the album whose guitar playing I like the best. Its stripped down, almost punkish guitar went well with the dystopian theme of DD.

Thanks for that. I didn't know Diamond Dogs was just Bowie.  I'll be all over this while working tomorrow.  I do love that album.

ajkula66

Quote from: uwe on January 04, 2021, 07:12:50 PM
. Its stripped down, almost punkish guitar went well with the dystopian theme of DD.

An excellent album indeed. Raw and energetic. I never realized that Bowie did all the guitar work, though. Thanks for the education... :)
"...knowledge is a deadly friend when no one sets the rules..." (King Crimson)

My music: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKh45r6zj5Mti2qalpHfROjxWtSB_HyUT

gearHed289

Add Steve Morse to the lefties playing righty list.

As far as lefty-playing-lefty-tuned-righty, you've got Jimmy Haslip and Lee Pomeroy.

uwe

Bowie always joked that most accomplished guitar players have a hard time playing Rebel Rebel "because it was written by someone who can't really play guitar". And it's true, I've never heard it sound live (when other people play it) like it did on the record where he played.

Diamond Dogs was the first Bowie music I ever heard. I was completely mesmerized by it. It remains a favourite to this day - together with Station to Station (which I first disliked because it sounded nothing at all like my beloved DD, but it turned out to be a slow burner).
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Ken

Quote from: uwe on January 05, 2021, 07:54:14 AM
Bowie always joked that most accomplished guitar players have a hard time playing Rebel Rebel "because it was written by someone who can't really play guitar". And it's true, I've never heard it sound live (when other people play it) like it did on the record where he played.

Diamond Dogs was the first Bowie music I ever heard. I was completely mesmerized by it. It remains a favourite to this day - together with Station to Station (which I first disliked because it sounded nothing at all like my beloved DD, but it turned out to be a slow burner).

The slow burners I find are the ones that end up staying with you forever.

uwe

Quote from: gearHed289 on January 05, 2021, 07:51:32 AM
Add Steve Morse to the lefties playing righty list.

That explains a lot. I always wondered about the unusual position of his strumming hand - no arm movement, very angled elbow near the bridge, all pick movement from his wrist, it looked neither comfortable nor natural - und as it turned out, it did give him issues eventually and he had to relearn a traditional strumming position in more recent years. He said it was a real effort for him.

He's lost some of his former trademark speed in the process, but for DP that is actually a good thing - in a rock band context, little Steve at "only" 4/5 of his usual warp speed is just right!  :mrgreen:
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

doombass

Quote from: uwe on January 04, 2021, 07:01:02 PM
What a lovely coincidence, Doomy, isn't your best friend too?

Nope, but our drummer is multi-handed though.  ???

uwe

I wouldn't dare draw rushed conclusions from that. Good rhythm sections share a lot.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

gearHed289

Quote from: uwe on January 05, 2021, 08:07:56 AMThat explains a lot. I always wondered about the unusual position of his strumming hand - no arm movement, very angled elbow near the bridge, all pick movement from his wrist, it looked neither comfortable nor natural - und as it turned out, it did give him issues eventually and he had to relearn a traditional strumming position in more recent years. He said it was a real effort for him.

I remember him talking about the way he rotates his wrist in an unusual way compared to righties. It's too bad it caused damage eventually, but he still seems to play OK.  ;D