Bill Wyman Gear Auction

Started by Dave W, February 15, 2020, 03:52:21 PM

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Dave W

In Beverly Hills May 30-31

Includes his Vox, Framus Star, Steiny, Mustang and others. They ought to bring a hefty price.

westen44

I had a friend yesterday who told me he would give everything he had to buy that.  I knew he was quite a Stones fan, but that's hardcore. 
It's not those who write the laws that have the greatest impact on society.  It's those who write the songs.

--Blaise Pascal

ilan

The Steinie was a long-scale L2 that had 4" cut off its neck.

gearHed289

Quote from: ilan on February 18, 2020, 03:16:14 AM
The Steinie was a long-scale L2 that had 4" cut off its neck.

I was wondering about that. Really?

ilan

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Quote from: gearHed289 on February 18, 2020, 10:13:32 AM
I was wondering about that. Really?

From Guitar Player, 1983

BTW he could have just tuned a standard bass one step down and capo the 2nd fret

gearHed289


Alanko

One thing I noticed on Bill's Mustangs was that he moved the strap button onto the treble horn, so that they hung more vertically.


uwe

#7
Because he thinks and plays like a double bassist with the neck as vertical as he can get it - he once explained that most electric bassist construct their bass lines from the E and A string as their base, while a double bassist starts from D and G and moves to the deeper strings - and that he opted for the latter though he regrettably couldn't really play double bass as his hands were so small.

Wyman also liked to play in the middle portion of the fretboard (a lot of Stones songs are in B) - he would rarely play beyond the 12th fret or real deep/low, towards the headstock, he even avoided empty strings (probably because with his just-behind- or even on-top-of-the-neck right hand positioning, palm muting wasn't really an option for him). If you like to spend your time mostly between the 5th and the 12th fret, his bass positioning makes sense too.

Now that I play in a Stones tribute, I spend more time analyzing the man. I don't really slavishly copy his bass runs (neither does Darryl Jones btw), but I try to understand his approach. For instance, he had a thing for fifths. Where a lot of bassists would have played the root, he would play the 5th, even his bass run to the Satisfaction riff is constructed that way, he plays an A to the D chord accompanying the H/C#/D riff (after the initial E chord). Not very rock at all in sound, but in line with the Samba feel of the original recording.

Bill is severely underrated though Darryl Jones' style is more stadium sound-compatible & -effective.
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Alanko

Quote from: uwe on March 04, 2020, 03:47:04 PM...even his bass run to the Satisfaction riff is constructed that way...

Right! I've seen a few bands that simply play the Satisfaction riff in unison, like it is a monolithic Sabbathy sort of riff. B-B-B-C#-D... Blue Cheer did exactly this on their cover!




Bill plays an E under the opening guitar B of the riff. This pushes Keith into playing the B as a fifth to Bill's bass line. This sorta fits the notion that Keith originally heard the fuzz part as a horn part.

Darryl Jones could be parachuted into any sort of gig, within reason, and he would hold his own. If The Who needed a new bassist then they could draft him in. If Phil Collins needed a bassist then he would be on the phone to Darryl.

slinkp

Still the best Satisfaction cover:


Basses: Gibson lpb-1, Gibson dc jr tribute, Greco thunderbird, Danelectro dc, Ibanez blazer.  Amps: genz benz shuttle 6.0, EA CXL110, EA CXL112, Spark 40.  Guitars: Danelectro 59XT, rebuilt cheap LP copy