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Other Bass Brands / Re: Tom Peterson's mystery 4-string
« on: April 06, 2017, 12:32:12 PM »
Thanks Alanko for your survey. Interesting points. BTW, do you happen to have any connection to Finland? "Alanko" is a finnish surname.

I also chanced upon this photo and Jimmy Bain's bass has some of those same features too. Phil Lynott is playing Jimmy's Yamaha BB1200 (?).

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The Bass Zone / Re: Bass & wah-wah
« on: March 31, 2017, 02:38:42 AM »
Quote from: Alanko on March 30, 2017, 12:30:11 PM
I'm really enjoying this! The opening piano solo sounds like a warped variation of Debussy's Gollywog's Cake Walk.

 It reminded me of the tasteful use of wah by some of the Canterbury bassists:


Indeed. When I first heard Hatfield's debut Sinclair's playing on that track reminded me of Pekka Pohjola.

Here's another Pohjola-with-wah track, this time more rhythmic:

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The Bass Zone / Re: Bass & wah-wah
« on: March 29, 2017, 11:17:00 AM »
Quote from: uwe on March 29, 2017, 10:36:41 AM
I think wah is one of the few more sensible effects on bass.



That is the first time I ever heard wah on a bass. Being such a funk fan it's strange Hughes didn't use a Mutron back then, not even on his first solo album.  A great solo and a best part of the Mark III version of "Space Trucking".

Black Sabbath's "N.I.B." must be the second.

This is one of my favs from Pohjola. The hiss is very audible and low end is cut off but I prefer the sound to modern bass wahs which leave the low end uneffected and sound sterile and clean.

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The Bass Zone / Re: Some really tasty fretless playing
« on: March 29, 2017, 07:53:03 AM »
Weber is great. "Yellow Fields" is on my to-buy -list and his work on Ralph Towner's "Solstice" is great. That Kate Bush album was the first time I heard him.

Kate also used another fabulous upright player, Danny Thompson. His sound is very different to Weber's of course.

I recently got "Later That Evening" from which this is a highlight.

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The Bass Zone / Re: Bass & wah-wah
« on: March 29, 2017, 07:37:11 AM »
Quote from: gearHed289 on March 29, 2017, 07:26:31 AM
I'm more of an envelope filter guy. I never really got the hang of the rocker pedal, but I never spent much time with one either. Squire used a wah on the Fish and parts of CTTE good effect. He later got a Mutron envelope filter (GFTO era?) and got some great dynamics with it on several songs - Wondrous Stories, Future Times/Rejoice, Don't Kill the Whale, On the Silent Wings of Freedom...

Squire's first Mu-Tron experiment was on "Topographic Oceans" on "The Ancient" where he also used his Jazz Bass for the first time.

I also like the auto-wah 'though it's a different beast altogether. I have EHX Q-Tron.

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The Bass Zone / Bass & wah-wah
« on: March 29, 2017, 07:02:10 AM »
I recently bought a wah-wah -pedal and started the use it with the bass. A basic Dunlop Cry-Baby (w/a "vocal mod" or whatever it is was called...), shouldn't work but it does. Eats a bit of the low end but I don't care.  With a fuzz it's instant Canterbury prog or John Wetton '73 "Talking Drum" climax.

I also started to think about favourite wah-wah -bass moments. Lots of prog of course, like Gentle Giant's "Mobile", Richard Sinclair with Hatfield and The North, Pekka Pohjola w/Wigwam but also "Night Woman" by Nazareth.  What are yours?

Here's a small intro I played to our jazz-rock combo's version of "Icarus" (Ralph Towner). Meandering and searching for the spark but the sound is good. '76 Thunderbird (w/ EY pickups) through a Lab Series L4 and EBS CL210 (mic'ed).
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fghvw7v15hriwae/wahsolo.mp3?dl=0

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Other Bass Brands / Re: Tom Peterson's mystery 4-string
« on: March 15, 2017, 03:05:44 AM »
Thanks for the answers, Aria or Westone or something out of Matsumoko could be the right answer.  He also occasionally used a Greco EB-8 eight string bass at that time.

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Other Bass Brands / Tom Peterson's mystery 4-string
« on: March 11, 2017, 01:24:40 PM »
This 4-string simple looking bass has bugged me for years. It seems he used it circa 1979:




It also looks a bit wrong being a sort of modern looking bass with a pointy headstock and neck-through construction, at least when compared to other more vintage and "cool" looking 4-string basses he used on stage at the time (T-Birds, '55 P-Bass, Fender Bass V).

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: RIP John Wetton
« on: February 04, 2017, 06:30:39 AM »
Quote from: gearHed289 on February 02, 2017, 08:23:26 AM
Interesting. It's an odd sound. I thought it was just the recording (radio broadcast). That sure didn't last long as it was right back to the white P Bass for Asia's first tour.

12/16/1979



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The Outpost Cafe / Re: RIP John Wetton
« on: February 01, 2017, 12:01:08 PM »
Quote from: gearHed289 on February 01, 2017, 09:21:04 AM
I only saw John live twice - the first ASIA tour, and the UK reunion with Bozzio and Jobson in like 2012. I was pleasantly surprised at how great his voice was on the reunion tour. Funny how a band (UK) with only 2 studio and 1 live album have had such an enduring legacy. Just this past Saturday I received the UK Ultimate Collectors' Edition. Yes, it's expensive and yes, it's overkill, but I had to have it. Disc 18 was a last minute add as the package was coming together. It's a radio broadcast of the final show by the 3 piece recorded in Nijmegen, Netherlands 12/17/79. Man, the bass tone is loud and RAW! Weird mix - bass is to the left, Taurus pedals to the right. He was really something.

He apparently used his Ibanez RS-800 during those final gigs.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: RIP John Wetton
« on: February 01, 2017, 11:54:49 AM »
Quote from: godofthunder on February 01, 2017, 11:30:49 AM
    Another great gone. I remember during Asia tours he had Marshall 100 bass amps in a rolling road case, as I was playing a 78 100 watt Bass at the time I admired his choice.  At the time I was taking lots of crap for using a Marshall,  he gave me courage to persevere.

I believe he switched to Marshall during his stint with Heep. He advertised Marshall in 1976, I have a full page ad somewhere taken from Melody Maker. He used Marshalls also with UK and indeed in a rolling roadcase. In an Melody Maker interview he stated that he used Ampeg SVT's powering big Vega bass bins and with Hiwatts "on full treble" behind them with Heep (before changing to Marshall). With Crimso it was of course Hiwatts w/4x12"s and the infamous Vega. :)

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: RIP John Wetton
« on: January 31, 2017, 11:52:18 AM »
There's a Fripp diary from Crimson's '74 US tour where he wrote: "John had all three amps on". If Fripp wasn't very amused at the time when Wetton clearly didn't want to turn down he admitted that he had one of the most exciting bass sounds.

My favourite things were his playing and singing in Family, UK and especially King Crimson. "The Great Deceiver" 4CD livebox was a treat in 1992 and when they announced the exhaustive "Larks'", "Starless" and "Red" boxes a few years ago I never thought of not buying them even 'though I already had a majority of the live stuff in my collection. The '72-'74 Crimson was a fearsome group that never played a same show  twice and Wetton's bass playing and singing was an integral part of the sound. They never could have topped "Red" so Fripp's decision to split the band was right.




I I ever acquire a white rosewood neck P-bass I will "Wettonize" it. :) R.I.P. John.

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Fender Basses / Re: Richard Sinclair's modified Jazz Bass
« on: January 29, 2017, 12:57:37 PM »
Quote from: Alanko on January 28, 2017, 03:53:21 PM
What are the other pickups on Richard's bass in that first photo? Or are the simply raised covers to hide the stock routes?

Covers indeed, the bass has only the EB pickup.

Quote from: Alanko on January 28, 2017, 03:53:21 PM
John Greaves of Henry Cow/National Health and another Canterburyite, played another modified Jazz bass, as seen here:



One of my fav National Health tracks and the last performance of that line-up- Dave Stewart had already left the band but agreed to do the TV show. The others struggled to play the piece (composed by Stewart) and John Greaves seems a bit tipsy. :) Dave was not amused.

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Fender Basses / Re: Richard Sinclair's modified Jazz Bass
« on: January 25, 2017, 01:34:46 PM »
Quote from: Chris P. on January 25, 2017, 01:14:38 PM
I love Neil as a person and as a bass player.

I don't know him personally but he always has time to answer my questions about how he ended up on John Martyn's "One World" album and how he modded his Tele -necked P-bass and etc. etc. He also adds some more interesting details I never even thought about asking.

A great memory and down to earth personality plus a fantastic bass player.

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Fender Basses / Richard Sinclair's modified Jazz Bass
« on: January 25, 2017, 12:52:31 PM »
I've always liked Richard Sinclair's singing and bass playing and his signature tone has always been a Jazz Bass with emphasis on the bridge pickup. However on Hatfild And The North's second album "The Rotters' Club" his tone is different (but equally tasty) and it bothered me for years (I'm serious!). The bass sounds a bit like a P-bass or a Ric with bridge pickup on.

Well, it seems he had removed the Jazz pickups and had installed a Gibson EB bridge pickup between the original locations. I asked Neil Murray on Facebook if he could give me any info since Neil and Richard played some gigs together when Neil was in Gilgamesh in 1973 and he said that Richard liked the sound of his P-bass that had an EB-3 bridge PU installed (near the bridge). 

He later reinstalled the Jazz pickups and went back to his old sound (during his stint with Camel also removed the frets).




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