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So.... a long shot!

I have a Rickenbacker-shaped thing on order. It has a Jazz pickup in the neck position, and enough space for another jazz pickup in the traditional Rickenbacker bridge position. I plan to use two Jazz pickups as they are a standard design.

I realise I'm trying to make something sound like something else, and nothing sounds like a Rick (etc etc, ad nauseum), but IF you had to chose a noiseless Jazz bass pickup for a Rick-type tone, what would you use?

I've been recommended Dimarzio Ultra J pickups in other places.

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The Bass Zone / The bass used on Led Zeppelin 1
« on: March 07, 2016, 06:25:25 AM »
Hello all,

I've noticed a few discussions about JPJ's tone online, and analysis of his tone doesn't really ever get beyond his use of rounds and flats on various cuts. The general consensus is that he used a Jazz bass in the early-to-mid era, then swapped that out for the Becvar and Alembic basses we see from 1977 onwards. He also used a fretless CBS-era Precision bass, a stripped finish Tele bass and some sort of electric upright bass live, and that is that!

However I've listened to the intro to Dazed and Confused a lot over the years, and I cannot hear a Jazz bass in that tone at all. To my ears it sounds like an EB0/EB1/EB2 with flatwounds, played with a pick and hitting an oldschool studio compressor quite hard. The notes are pillowy, but the attach is percussive with a bit of a 'click' present.

My fan theory is that Jimmy Page picked up his more experimental studio chops in the latter days of the Yardbirds, and when he knew he had to record tracks quickly and economically for LZ1 he remembered how easily the Rivoli went onto tape on the Yardies tunes. That sort of bass wouldn't really fug up the middle frequencies like a Fender bass would, so he could separate the instruments out quite easily and quickly creating a (relatively) clear, expansive mix on a tight budget and time constraint.

JPJ is pictured holding an EB1 on the rotating disk thingy for LZ III but it doesn't mean he played it on that, or any, album.

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Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs / Dummy coils!
« on: January 21, 2016, 04:11:56 PM »
My OLP bass is about to enter the next phase of modding. My goal here has always been to make the bass sound something like a robust Rickenbacker and, to that end, I've kitted it out with different pickups over time.

My next plan is to fit two Jazz-style pickups, in the virtual 24th and 36th fret locations. I plan to wire it with a 3-way switch, master volume, master tone and bass roll of control on the bridge pickup alone to give me the equivalent of the cap in older Rickenbackers. As I'm using single coils, and a 3-way switch, I'm wondering if there is any way of getting a dummy coil in to the proceedings. I have scads of cheap single coil pickups I could use for the job, once shod of their magnets. From what I gather, dummy coils have to be reverse-wound from their accompanying pickup to work. However Jazz pickups are wound in opposite directions so that they cancel hum when both turned up. Therefore does each pickup need an accompanying dummy coil, and will this kill all the high end when both pickups, and their dummies, are selected at the same time? I want to keep the bass easy to play, so I don't really want to be working with microswitches to flip the phase on the dummy coil, which is the only solution I've seen online thus far.

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Rickenbacker Basses / Greg Lake's modded Rickenbacker
« on: January 08, 2016, 03:02:31 PM »
Greg Lake played a Rickenbacker for a very brief period, in or around 1974. I've only seen a couple of pics of it ever:



It seems modded out the gate, with a Jazz bass pickup cover over the bridge, revised control layout and custom pickguard. It looks like a mono 4001, which I think is unusual because it has binding and triangular inlays. Any thoughts?

I saw, and stole, an image recently on an ELP fan page on Facebook. Apparently this pickguard was discovered on a shelf, somewhere in ELP's offices. It looks like Danny O'Brien's work for Tony Zemaitis, and is clearly configured for a Rick neck pickup and a Jazz pickup in the bridge, albeit with the pickup much closer to the bridge than the stock Rick position.

I like the Tarkus inlay!



It looks like the pickguard never made it onto the bass, but it is a nice piece of work!

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Rickenbacker Basses / Watt with a Rickenbacker!
« on: November 28, 2015, 12:30:16 PM »
Not something I've seen before. Not convinced about the music, but cool to see something new.


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I prodded and tickled the search engine, and apparently there isn't such a thread... I'm leaving out the obvious choices to begin with.

Michael Gunther - Agitation Free



Douglas Hart - Jesus and Mary Chain



"Happy" Dieter - Tangerine Dream (but not as you know them)



David Steele - The Beat (I thought this track captures the rubbery tone of an EB-2 really well)




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Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs / What would you do with...
« on: October 19, 2015, 02:14:44 AM »
...a Fender Wide Range bass humbucker? I have one sitting on a shelf here sourced, allegedly, from a '70s Tele bass. It is certainly an original '70s model and not a repro.

Do I pick up a basket case P bass or similar and drop it in the mid position, or do you prescribe something whacky?

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The Outpost Cafe / Writing On the Wall
« on: August 26, 2015, 03:03:41 PM »
Given the size of the place it seems surprising that Edinburgh hasn't given the world more bands. The Rezillos anybody? Anyway, I discovered this band by chance; Writing On the Wall. A slightly cumbersome name, but a cool band. Definitely something of the Atomic Rooster about them.


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Rickenbacker Basses / How did the light show work?
« on: August 18, 2015, 03:20:15 PM »
I'm interested in the guys of those Lightshow instruments Rickenbacker made, including a 4005 variant. I've never seen it explained as to how they worked. From what I gather, the lights run off of mains electricity delivered via a 5-pin jack. The lights themselves seem to respond differently depending on which notes, or strings, are being played. How did this circuitry sense the strings, and convert that into switching for the lights?


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Fender Basses / Fender Slabs, and what made them tick.
« on: August 08, 2015, 10:24:02 AM »
When I was still on Talkbass, *sniff sniff*, I spoke to John Kallas a couple of times about the 1966 Slab Precisions. He was of the opinion that there was absolutely nothing special about them in terms of circuitry. This flies in the face of John Entwistle's claims, but makes a lot of sense. the Slab I've seen gut shots of has a black fiber bobbin and a grey fiber bobbin on the underside of each pickup half, so clearly they were thrown together from existing parts. I've seen the maple cap on the neck cited as a contributing factor as well, but again I find that hard to believe.

My personal stance is that the players, the strings and the amps changed just as the Slabs appeared. The two major players were Ace Kefford and John Entwistle, and both used Rotosound rounds and cranked the treble. Could they have simply done the exact same thing with stock Precisions with the body contours? I initially hypothesized that Fender, struck with the challenge of making a 'Telecaster bass', used 1 M pots off the Jazzmaster production line to get more top end out of the pickups, but apparently this isn't the case either. Rather, Kefford and Entwistle were making new sonic territory by gunning the treble on tube amps with limited headroom, and the Slabs just happened to be the bass driving this ensemble. Both players were given a wider degree of musical freedom in their respective bands as well. It all comes together nicely...

To bolster my theory, take The Who's gig from the Isle of Wight, 1970. I've seen this cited as an example of how a stock Precision just lacked the bite and grind inherent in the Slab circuitry. Yet, we know that John was running a simple bi-amp setup. I wager that they only mic'd up the 'bass' half of his rig. There are times when Roger Daltrey stands close to John's rig and you can hear the more typical Leeds tone bleeding into the vocal mics, which again backs up my argument. I would need to find an audience bootleg of that gig to reinforce my view, but I wager that any P bass with John's low action and zero relief setup would get the same tone through that rig. The idea of overwound pickups and 'inherent distortion' is a myth!

I don't see Fender winding hotter pickups for a small run of corner-cut designed basses for the limey market. It doesn't make sense to reward us with such a bespoke product if it involves holding up the production line.

All of this is just my opinion, and I would like to hear what everyone else makes of the Slabs.

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The Outpost Cafe / Bass on Argus.
« on: August 06, 2015, 09:29:31 AM »
I purchased a CD copy of Argus a few months back, before I realised there was various versions with different remixes etc. One thing I've noticed though is the lack of low end on the album. Is it just me, my headphones, my speakers etc? For example, on Throw Down the Sword there is this long pedal note on the intro that sounds pretty bassy, then it all evaporates away once the drums come in. Martin Turner plays some interesting counterpoint lines, though not quite up to Chris Squire's level of harmonic composition, but in doing so his tone seems to be all about this chewy high-mids sound that just becomes one of the guitars, to my ears. Where are the lows?

In short, I find Wishbone Ash to straddle hard rock and prog, but just sitting a wee bit out of each genre. They aren't UFO and they aren't Yes. I figured that I still have a fair chunk to learn about this band. I still like the tunes on Argus though.

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Gibson Basses / Thunderbird shootout.
« on: July 29, 2015, 02:42:26 PM »
I would be surprised if this hasn't been seen before, but this fella Heesey plays a bunch of tasty T-birds, and copies, through a SVT stack.

Part 1.



Part 2. (Non-reverse).



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Hello all,

I'm getting bad GAS for a white/cream Tokai Thunderbird. I quite like the contrast of the black hardware, but I quite like the chromed out look of the originals. There is a seller on Ebay that has empty T-bird pickup shells and pickup rings for sale. How easy is it to bury the Tokai pickups in the shells and mount the rings etc?

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