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Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: lowend1 on February 19, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
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???>:( :o :sad: :rolleyes::popcorn:
http://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2016-02-19/ritchie-blackmore-banned-hall-of-fame-deep-purple-induction
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Way WAY too much credence is put on who or what makes it into the rock and roll hall of fame. The place is a museum, not some professional governing body. Its two states are to induct dead cert deserving rock bands and to, alternatively, rock the apple cart a wee bit by inducting a rap artist or similar undeserving simply to stir up a bit of publicity.
Gene Simmons is a chartered bassist? :bored:
How come band X didn't get in when band Y did, etc ad nauseum. It get especially farcical when people start complaining that Gentle Giant, Return to Forever and the like haven't been inducted. Would it get more feet through the door? The twenty blokes that want to see one of Stanley's Alembics perhaps. I would rather put my faith in bands that don't pass the grade, personally. Why would something as free spirited, rebellious and iconoclastic as rock music need some sort of tortuous peer approval process before it can demonstrate its true worthiness? Such notions should be anathema to true rockers, right?
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Link won't load but there's this: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6882795/deep-purple-ritchie-blackmore-rock-hall-fame-induction-ceremony
Now the story is that he won't attend but he's apparently not banned.
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That's Ian Gillan peeing in the corn flakes, I'm sure. He despises Ritchie, and has difficulty with the fact that when people hear "Deep Purple", they aren't thinking of Steve Morse and Don Airey - as talented as they are.
We're talking 70-year old men here - if the fur started flying, somebody could break a hip! :mrgreen:
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I'm generally in the "current DP"-camp, but not here. I understand that Gillan wants to show estimation for the current line up members Steve Morse and Don Airey who will not be inducted (for formal reasons applicable to anyone), but letting Ritchie not play (when he wants to and has not made any reservations about sharing the stage with Steve Morse) is a cheap shot. Gillan's attitude towards Blackmore has hardened to a degree where these days he seems petty and harsh while Blackmore as the former enfant terrible seems at ease and flexible. That Blackmore prefers to not be there that evening and accept the commemoration together with Gillan if Gillan cannot even bring himself to play with him one or two songs, I fully understand. Let's face it: Gillan is what he is not because of what he was with Episode Six, but what he became singing over Blackmore's riffs with DP from 1969 onwards. No sane DP-member old or new has ever denied that Blackmore's songwriting was pivotal for the band taking the place in rock history it has. The only one ever dismissive about Blackmore's role is Gillan himself.
The fact that Deep Purple's current (and longstanding - since the reuunion in 1984) manager Bruce Payne used to be the Deep Purple tour manager in their 70ies heydays and then Rainbow's manager (= in essence Blackmore's manager, until Blackmore's mother-in-law-to-be took that job after his second departure from Purple in 1993) might also explain the convoluted and strained relations between the current Purple and the Blackmore camp. Payne and Blackmore used to be very close and then fell out extremely.
The RRHoF wasn't asking for the impossible, you know. The current line up could have played a song and then asked Blackmore, Coverdale and Hughes to join for Smoke on the Water (with Gillan, Coverdale and Hughes each taking a verse - the song has three!) - it would have been a celebration of the Purple heritage, nothing more and nothing less.
I wonder what happens if Rod Evans (the original singer from the Hush-era that has gone AWOL and disappeared from the face of this earth following his early 80ies gigs with a bogus DP and subsequent court action) shows up unexpectedly, he is to be inducted as well.
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If Rod gets the nod, there's no reason Nick Simper shouldn't as well. Maybe he (Nick) can go have a few pints with Ritchie and talk about getting a Mark 1 reunion tour going.
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Ian Gillan seems to have posted on his Facebook page that he welcomes Blackmore, Coverdale and Hughes to jam with the "living breathing DP" at the induction on .. you know what song! Let's see where that goes.
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There have been more cordial invitations.
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How true. Cordiality isn't Ian Gillan's forte in all matters Blackmore, it's always very pained/strained/labored. Estranged lovers: Back in the early 70ies the two used to take hotel rooms together (back in the days when DP members weren't yet accorded with suites for everyone of them) and hung around each other all the time. Possibly because, back then, Gillan was drawing more girls than he could handle for himself (Blackmore, the old scavenger!).
It's ironic, Gillan, once the carefree, gullible hippie with Purple, has become very set in his ways with age, while Blackmore, the former tense guy, has mellowed and become lenient.
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Seriously, what's the point of it without Ritchie :-\
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My Feelings
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I've never understood the RRHOF and they get more perplexing with each year. How do they justify leaving out one founding member who appeared on the first three albums, and at the same time include another with the exact same tenure? Even if Nick Simper didn't have the same number of writing credits he was there from the start...there are other bands in the Hall with completely meaningless members that somehow manage to get included. I predict next year WHAM! will get inducted and they will include Andrew Ridgeley.
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It's ironic, Gillan, once the carefree, gullible hippie with Purple, has become very set in his ways with age, while Blackmore, the former tense guy, has mellowed and become lenient.
Blackmore tense? Never!
"Smooth Dancer" indeed.
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I've never understood the RRHOF and they get more perplexing with each year. How do they justify leaving out one founding member who appeared on the first three albums, and at the same time include another with the exact same tenure? Even if Nick Simper didn't have the same number of writing credits he was there from the start...
Simper's omission was most likely a clerical error. Why? He surrendered all his royalties in 1969 (when he was dumped in favor of Roger Glover) in exchange of a good part of Deep Purple's then gear and a payment. He hasn't earned a cent from DP sales since then - a very silly move as the later gargantuan success of Mark II boosts sales of Mark I material to this day, even if DP's PA system and the money probably helped the start of his new band Warhorse back in 1970 (though it must have become outdated very quickly, given how quick PA technology developed during that time).
Now Rod Evans had to surrender his royalties too as part of the settlement reached with him following his ill-fated heading of a bogus Purple in the early 80ies and the Purple organsation's subsequent legal crackdown on him (all other Purple members united in that effort except for the by then late Tommy Bolin and poor participationless Nick Simper, who ironically had been asked to join the bogus Purple by Rod Evans, yet refused), but his surrender of rights was only a suspension for a very long period (20 years or so), currently he is again participating in Mark I related sales (though I wonder where the money actually goes as he has disappeared from view for decades; for a time he worked as an hospital orderly in California after his tenure with Captain Beyond ended).
When the RRHOF called the former Purple management (whose companies HEC and Deep Purple Overseas have incidentally gone into administration recently) they got a list of the people that are still stakeholders in those ventures. That list included Rod Evans, but not Nick Simper who had dropped out of those ventures nearly 50 years ago.
Now don't ask me why that howler of a glitch wasn't corrected while there was still time. Simper's busy and melodic (if very 60ies in style, one of the reasons why he was fired by the others) "flatwounds with a pick"-bass playing is all over the first three Purple albums, very audibly so, and he contributed at least as much a Jon Lord in the writing department - both not as much as Ritchie though who was still finding his feet as a riff merchant at the time. Seemingly, nobody in the Purple organisation or the RRHOF cared (or knew) enough.
Nick Simper, who is not a bitter man, has been gentlemanly relaxed about it:
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/original-deep-purple-bassist-nick-simper-shrugs-off-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-snub/
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To borrow a phrase from an old bandmate of Ritchie: Lazy ... you just stay in bed ...
http://www.thehighwaystar.com/thsblog/2016/03/20/blackmore-is-sued-for-botched-album-promotion/
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Ah, the great Dane speaks (and will induct) ...
http://www.thehighwaystar.com/news/2016/04/03/ulrich-to-present-deep-purple-at-the-induction/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9zl1Y31fXw
He's always been a card-carrying Purple-ite so the choice isn't a bad one.
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A soap opera/reality show, no less:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3JS8jyVkls&nohtml5=False
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4rfNtOlXbU&nohtml5=False
http://www.thehighwaystar.com/news/2016/04/09/a-weird-conglomeration-of-people/
http://www.thehighwaystar.com/news/2016/04/11/living-up/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36TgXwQa1_U&feature=player_embedded
And I sure hope that Fats Domino is a big-hearted man, you need to be if you listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnEeKbkW1pc&nohtml5=False
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Cool to see one of my cases up there behind Roger Glover. The black and white checkerboard with the black and orange combo in top. We just did one for that combo too in matching black and orange.
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And I sure hope that Fats Domino is a big-hearted man, you need to be if you listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnEeKbkW1pc&nohtml5=False
That was pretty awful...
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Plain 'orrible. And you can't even blame Cheap Trick this time for all of it.
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That's a great example of why I prefer the 50s originals.