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Main Forums => The Bass Zone => Topic started by: Stjofön Big on February 28, 2015, 01:11:13 AM
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Quite enjoyable!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVRQ-DC9PE
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I'm learning a lot of stuff. I had no idea Hitler was a Brian Wilson fan boy. In this article, I learned that Noel Gallagher actually doesn't like Brian Wilson. I also learned that Oasis was the world's greatest band (at least according to Noel Gallagher.)
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/noel-gallagher-on-loving-seinfeld-hating-most-everything-else-20150227?page=2
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That Hitler's always getting bent out of shape about something.
"How can it be a Hall of Fame without Van Dyke Parks?" LOL!
Some good zingers in there but any comparison like this just reinforces why I don't care for the Beach Boys.
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I also learned that Oasis was the world's greatest band (at least according to Noel Gallagher.)
I was laughing about that over the weekend too. Guess I must have been living under a rock or something when that happened. ???
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I was laughing about that over the weekend too. Guess I must have been living under a rock or something when that happened. ???
Klaus Voorman quotes George Harrison in an interview with Mat Snow which mentions that Oasis ripped off some George Harrison song titles.
GH:
"F***ing Oasis! Can't stand them!"
I understand George being upset. He had his reasons. Personally, though, I don't care one way or another. I bought one Oasis album, didn't like it and that was that. I did, however, once know an Oasis fanatic who was a fine guitarist.
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"Did Mr. Kite bring anyone to tears?" LOL
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"Did Mr. Kite bring anyone to tears?" LOL
It's a John Lennon song that even he admitted wasn't very good. On the other hand, the Oasis album I bought and attempted to like didn't have any good songs on it. Name one good Oasis song.
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Hey, I like Mr Kite, goofy as it is. I was just laughing at a line from the video.
I've never liked Oasis, personally.
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Eventually Oasis will be remembered more for the Gallagher brothers' fighting than for their music.
Warning: NSFW language
Oasis Feud: The Best Of Noel Gallagher vs. Liam Gallagher (http://www.alternativenation.net/oasis-feud-the-best-of-noel-gallagher-vs-liam-gallagher/)
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Hey, I like Mr Kite, goofy as it is. I was just laughing at a line from the video.
I've never liked Oasis, personally.
Oh, I'm sorry. I think I'm just so used to being around people lately who are hyper-critical of the Beatles that I can instantly react sometimes. For instance, recently I read a comment in which someone said the only good thing about the Beatles is that half of them are dead. Even in real life I'm around a relative a lot who really dislikes the Beatles. When it comes to music, we are polar opposites.
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i like the beatles but am not a big fanboy. i do acknowledge their genius and will defend them always. my easy pick for best rock group of all time if there is a pole lurking about.
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I'm not sure if I'd consider myself a Beatles fan boy, but I'm definitely a loyal George Harrison fan. I tend to lean toward his most obscure albums that the critics often hated. Plus, I really appreciate the fact that Willie Weeks plays bass on a number of tracks found on those albums.
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I'm learning a lot of stuff. I had no idea Hitler was a Brian Wilson fan boy. In this article, I learned that Noel Gallagher actually doesn't like Brian Wilson. I also learned that Oasis was the world's greatest band (at least according to Noel Gallagher.)
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/noel-gallagher-on-loving-seinfeld-hating-most-everything-else-20150227?page=2
I think Noel is a hilarious interview partner. And that new CD - I just heard it this mornung - ain't bad. It oozes Oasis all over, very psychedelic. Oasis on mushrooms.
With Oasis, I'm sitting on the fence, I don't think they were a really great band, but a good one with some songwriting skill. If you listen to all their major and minor hits, you can't help but notice a fair spattering of good hooks and decent harmonies. Lyrics weren't their strong department and neither was instrumental prowess. Live they could be workmanlike to tedious. Liam's inability to communicate with an audience as a frontman overstayed its welcome pretty quickly.
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I think Noel is a hilarious interview partner. And that new CD - I just heard it this mornung - ain't bad. It oozes Oasis all over, very psychedelic. Oasis on mushrooms.
With Oasis, I'm sitting on the fence, I don't think they were a really great band, but a good one with some songwriting skill. If you listen to all their major and minor hits, you can't help but notice a fair spattering of good hooks and decent harmonies. Lyrics weren't their strong department and neither was instrumental prowess. Live they could be workmanlike to tedious. Liam's inability to communicate with an audience as a frontman overstayed its welcome pretty quickly.
Because of the people I was around and the circumstances I was in, it would have made some sense to like both U2 and Oasis. I honestly tried fairly hard, but was ultimately unable to like either band. It never got to the point that I actually disliked anybody from either band, though. Observing some of the turmoil in Oasis was kind of sad to watch. I found myself somewhat sympathetic at times.
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The wisdom of Noel Gallagher :rolleyes: (NSFW language)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEAiFOZ2uq4
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I am beginning to like this guy. He is definitely amusing. Maybe I'll even give the music a shot again sometime.
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The wisdom of Noel Gallagher :rolleyes: (NSFW language)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEAiFOZ2uq4
Come on, he has humor. His new solo album has quite some horns on it (something Oasis always met with derision) and when he gigged it recently one of his announcements/quips was: "Ok, everybody stay calm, yes, we're gonna have a sax player on stage with us right now".
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Yes, he is funny.
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I just wish a tenth of the money that's been spent on publicizing Oasis. They had what, one or two Top 40 hits 20 years ago and yet somehow they've ever been some kind of musical or cultural watermark? U2 can at least claim having seen the top of the charts a few times. Pop music may be a wasteland, but Oasis is no oasis.
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They sold 50 million CDs, that wasn't bad in its time and can no longer be even attained today.
Oasis is to me like Nickelback, I neither despise them nor are they the Lord's gift to rock music. Identifiable sound, some good tracks, lots of fillers. In the 70ies, both of them would have been solid class B bands. Where UFO, Nazareth, Foghat and Mott the Hoople roamed.
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Where UFO, Nazareth, Foghat and Mott the Hoople roamed.
BITE YOUR TONGUE, LAD! :mrgreen:
MHO, of course, but UFO were and still are better (and have had more staying power) than most of the bands that passed them on the way to class A status. Def Leppard and Scorpions immediately come to mind (and I really liked both of those bands in their prime).
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That is a good point, Herr Carlston. Had UFO more to offer than ze Scörps and Def Leppard? On their good albums yes, there is only one Phil Mogg and one Michael Schenker. But what they lacked as a working unit was any form of consistency and focus. And those two traits are what made the Scorpions and Def Leppard so enormously successful. None of their members really had star or "deep artist" quality (I'm talking about the Scorpions sans Uli Roth, his new CD with reworked Scorps tracks is something to marvel at),
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui34XwanYT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPgLcj9_qwE
but they were good collectively and VERY DETERMINED outfits. Triumph of the will, so to say. When the Scorpions gave interviews in Germany around 1978 how they wanted to conquer the US and fill arenas there, people laughed at them and said: "Klaus Meine can't even sing proper English, yet wants to beat Americans at their own game." Michael Schenker once remarked "I'm all about the music, my brother Rudolf is about keeping a band together as a living breathing entity, it is the secret of the enduring success of the Scorpions". Finally, Joe Elliott, always a perceptive man, once self-realized: "Not one member of Def Leppard is really anything special and we all know that, but we just work extremely well together."
I only recently bought the last three UFO albums with Vinnie Moore to hear what they do now. Only heard the most recent/new one and was surprised how earthy they sound with him. Not Schenker, but way better than Paul "Tonka" Chapman who for his life could never play a meaningful solo.
So maybe there is something to the old saying "Success is 10% talent and 90% hard work." Phil Mogg obviously wasn't the type of caring mother hen to UFO that Rudolf S. and Joe E. were to their respective bands.
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Some pre UFO Tonka... saw both line-ups of this band... 1st is with John Sloman but I preferred Kenny Driscoll (2nd ones) who sung on the first LP... UK pomp-rock... musically not that extraordinary but I enjoyed them...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=asM8683vfzM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_roc1h9OCQ4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlWzE5hUHB8
Supported Nugent in '76 and (iirc) Mahogany Rush in '77, or something like that... the pics are buried in the box somewhere, sad little person that I am...
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They sold 50 million CDs, that wasn't bad in its time and can no longer be even attained today.
I never had a clue they were anywhere near that successful. I seriously thought they were just Rolling Stone's new Manchester darlings. I have to like them now. This cover mandates it (lots of pre-song banter, but it's funny):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osArZ-zCJdg
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I was once in a music store (albums, CDs) when someone once said something about Tori Amos. There was a guy standing there who went into the most intense, starstruck fanboy mode that I've ever seen. It's like he was in awe of her. I think if Tori Amos had actually walked into the store he would have fainted.
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Lone Star were third league, Kenny, and you know it! What's next, Quartz, Nutz, Bandit, Phoenix and Widowmaker? :mrgreen:
Or Strapps, but them me loves.
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you forgot stray dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArUfyJyxY90https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArUfyJyxY90
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I was once in a music store (albums, CDs) when someone once said something about Tori Amos. There was a guy standing there who went into the most intense, starstruck fanboy mode that I've ever seen. It's like he was in awe of her. I think if Tori Amos had actually walked into the store he would have fainted.
The ex loved her and copied her look, and pulled it off for about a few years. I think we saw her in concert five or six times. Tori is REALLY good, but as she older and settled in her marriage and having a kid, went batshit crazy. When I saw her in Louisville, KY in maybe 2005-06, I talked with her husband, who is her producer and live engineer; he's a nice guy, and she gave me a shout out from the stage, which embarrassed and angered the hell out of my ex because she was supposed to be "the Tori fan." I always liked her. She's made her mark and her money and is just enjoying herself these days.
Her bass player had a nice blue Lakland fiver and a Tobias 4-string fed through an Avalon preamp into what looked like an old SWR Basic Black driving an Eden 4x10 XST: best consistent bass sound I've EVER heard through a PA, which was Nexo and/or Clair powered cabs with a beautiful Midas Heritage 3 at FOH. Bass AND kick drum were always present, punch-in-the-gut but not overbearing. Even on the shows where she had a guitar player, the mix was always open and dynamic. They sold board tapes of every show online, and I got one from the Nashville show in 2007. It wasn't her best performance, probably the worst I'd seen from her personally, but the sound and the band were excellent. I took that board recording and did a little post editing to it and made a CD that I'm pretty proud of and was great practice for my mastering skills- learned a LOT of cool tricks doing it.
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I never had a clue they were anywhere near that successful. I seriously thought they were just Rolling Stone's new Manchester darlings. I have to like them now. This cover mandates it (lots of pre-song banter, but it's funny):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osArZ-zCJdg
Nice version and that was one of my favorite Oasis tracks to play - mock Lennon "Imagine" intro and all. I went ape-shit with my McCartneyisms in it. It has good chord progressions you can walk the bass thru. Sung by Noel, not Liam in the original btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8OipmKFDeM
There is no other forum on earth where there are threads that include Oasis, Tori Amos, Uli Jon Roth and Lone Star!!! :mrgreen:
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The ex loved her and copied her look, and pulled it off for about a few years. I think we saw her in concert five or six times. Tori is REALLY good, but as she older and settled in her marriage and having a kid, went batshit crazy. When I saw her in Louisville, KY in maybe 2005-06, I talked with her husband, who is her producer and live engineer; he's a nice guy, and she gave me a shout out from the stage, which embarrassed and angered the hell out of my ex because she was supposed to be "the Tori fan." I always liked her. She's made her mark and her money and is just enjoying herself these days.
Her bass player had a nice blue Lakland fiver and a Tobias 4-string fed through an Avalon preamp into what looked like an old SWR Basic Black driving an Eden 4x10 XST: best consistent bass sound I've EVER heard through a PA, which was Nexo and/or Clair powered cabs with a beautiful Midas Heritage 3 at FOH. Bass AND kick drum were always present, punch-in-the-gut but not overbearing. Even on the shows where she had a guitar player, the mix was always open and dynamic. They sold board tapes of every show online, and I got one from the Nashville show in 2007. It wasn't her best performance, probably the worst I'd seen from her personally, but the sound and the band were excellent. I took that board recording and did a little post editing to it and made a CD that I'm pretty proud of and was great practice for my mastering skills- learned a LOT of cool tricks doing it.
I can't think of anything more appealing than a pretty rock chick with red hair. The guy in the record store probably just couldn't help himself. I haven't listened to her music very much, but she is obviously very good. Besides that, it sounds like it would be worth going to see a performance just because of the superb band.
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Kenny, you're to blame: In a fit of madness I just ordered two Lone Star CDs!
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I have big enough shoulders to bear the responsibility, and don't forget the live recordings...! :mrgreen:
Lone Star were third league, Kenny, and you know it! What's next, Quartz, Nutz, Bandit, Phoenix and Widowmaker? :mrgreen:
Or Strapps, but them me loves.
Saw all but for Bandit... Phoenix stood out and had their debut LP... Widowmaker stands out as they were the openers for the Who at Charlton in '76 (with Outlaws, Little Feat, SAHB); Nutz were pedestrian; Quartz were a bitter disappointment (as well as their awful cover of N Sleighride) as they supported a re-arranged Black Sabbath tour, replacing Van Halen, whom I still have not seen...
I'm going to cheer myself up by raising another name slightly edited down from Tom's posting...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjfXkiiBRZI
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeSwqNIdY-Y
Saw them loads of times... I still have all their original vinyl... and even a tee... ;)
and another sub-standard outfit...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiizHnYF0Yk