The Last Bass Outpost
Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: 4stringer77 on January 23, 2015, 10:43:29 AM
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and Rudy Sarzo is along for the ride once more.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/tom-morello-serj-tankian-ozzy-osbourne-crazy-train-cover-20150121
You guys pumped or as deflated as Tom Brady's balls?
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i'm over 14. i don't care. :rolleyes:
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Oh well... that was (yawn) ... where was I...?
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Well, so Rudy finally gets to play on it. 8)
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I wonder if they even approached Bob and Lee? Nofi, I can't speak for everyone, but being a grown man that enjoys playing rock music keeps me perpetually stuck at 14 in some ways. Not necessarily a bad thing.
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not all rock music, mind you. just the randy rhodes bit.
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The original version I loved... deeply regretted not seeing the tour... went to a 21st party instead...
The Osbourne family have a picture of him in a (what to me appeared to be) place of honour at their home in Buckinghamshire...
... mind you Nofi... we need to resurrect the blues thread... ;)
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I'm good with this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoweoZ6jpM
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I'm good with this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoweoZ6jpM
me too, didn't make it past the solo, and I'm not normally averse to Morello's unique take on how a guitar is played
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not all rock music, mind you. just the randy rhodes bit.
Don't forget that you are watching a mere bubble in time, Nofi. Had Rhoads lived on, I'm sure he would have moved on (he was in the process of doing so even then) and would probably be today on something akin to the Windham Hill label strumming a Taylor. While I saw him live and was less than overawed at the time, he had more in him than the metal guitar hero merchant.
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For me Daisley=Crazy Train his tone and execution have not been equaled. You can even hear the bass lines dumbed down here. No offense to Rudy it is always difficult to fill someone shoes. While the entire time the focus is on Ozzy and Randy, you can get away with murder behind them. When Trugillio's (I know I spelled it wrong) mix of CT comes on I turn it of. As a bass player this so totally pisses me off.
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Sarzo is a good player himself, but his dramatic stage antics belie the fact that he actually has a laid back groove that has none of the forward drive Daisley's bass style has. Plus Daisley has that pick attack. Daisley is very accentuated in the way he plays, you hear every note.
Just listen here, Daisley pre-Ozzy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AGzNGMUXR4
Sarzo playing the same song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ZExPQru-A
Some people might actually prefer Sarzo's more massive and modern sound, but there is no denying that the notes are more focussed with Daisley.
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Bob's the best. There should be a statue of him in his home town like Phil Lynott has even though he's still alive.
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Bob's an Aussie. They don't really have towns there. It would be somwhere out in the middle of nowhere - close to a rock and a bunch of lizards. :mrgreen:
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Bob's the best. There should be a statue of him in his home town like Phil Lynott has even though he's still alive.
I´d vote for Bob too.
Actually, I´ve seen a living statue - in the main shopping street in some big town. It looked like a statue, but at noon
it looked at it´s watch and walked away, maybe it was having a lunch break or something.
Maybe Bob could have one of those?
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Wow, I just gave that Morello Serj Sarzo version a try. That was pretty awful.
I'm okay with a cover that adds something new, or when it is just a different approach. But this is just plain bad. The vocals are incredibly crappy. Who would have guessed Ozzy would be the better singer... I didn't make it to the end of this Crazy Train Wreck.
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It sounds like a Primus cover at half speed with none of the charm. It's awful. Poor Bob Daisley. I have yet to hear ANY cover band do "Crazy Train" and actually use his bassline because it's just easier to drop octave pedal tones and follow the guitar, not that most fans of Crazy Train could identify the urgent countermelodic bass playing as the driving force behind the song anyway, but this version just sounds so slow, constipated and half-hearted. I seriously would prefer a full-on Rage Against the Machine cover with Zach De La Rocha's anti-whitey angst lyrics and Tom not even trying to copy Randy (which if that was the goal here, he failed miserably), ...YUCK!
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Not so much bad as pointless. The guitar solo has humor in its utter OTTness and the hilarious ending though.
Ozzy is as much limited as a singer as he is difficult to emulate convincingly. These guys do it pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yACaB6fzt_c&index=4&list=RDgXp38pyx7dg
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I have yet to hear ANY cover band do "Crazy Train" and actually use his bassline because it's just easier to drop octave pedal tones and follow the guitar
I've done it probably a couple of hundred times. The RIGHT way! ;D It IS annoying when I hear some cover band hack dumb it down.
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Never liked Rudy's playing - especially when he's playing Daisley's lines. When I listen to "Speak Of The Devil", I'm reminded of somebody throwing marshmallows against a concrete wall.
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That marshmallow image is perfect. Sarzo's playing is a bit on the diffuse side for whatever reason. It's not that he doesn't have the chops to execute. In a band like Quiet Riot - guitar, drums, bass with simplistic riffs - that didn't matter so much (mind you, what you hear on Metal Health - the song and the album - is mostly Chuck Wright, not Rudy), but when music gets more complex - Dio or Whitesnake - I find his bass playing gets lost quickly. Quicker than Jimmy Bain's or Neil Murray's for instance.