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Gear Discussion Forums => Rickenbacker Basses => Topic started by: BTL on December 20, 2014, 01:12:43 PM

Title: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: BTL on December 20, 2014, 01:12:43 PM
From the RIC museum...I've never seen this one before.

http://www.johnbiscuti.net/photos/rickmuseum/ (http://www.johnbiscuti.net/photos/rickmuseum/)

(http://static.squarespace.com/static/519823f9e4b00c954c5e6677/51984718e4b0ef02d1bc8333/519847c4e4b06c10ed4aadec/1368981140450/museum-1-28.jpg?format=500w)

(http://static.squarespace.com/static/519823f9e4b00c954c5e6677/51984718e4b0ef02d1bc8333/5198fec6e4b07c775379cc89/1368981303691/john-1-6.jpg?format=750w)
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: Dave W on December 20, 2014, 09:07:30 PM
I just don't like that bridge pickup placement, on this one or a 4005.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: ilan on December 20, 2014, 11:44:27 PM
What Dave said. It's way too close to the bridge, and as you can expect, 4005 bridge pickups sound very thin and weak.

If you like that pickguard style, there is a 3000 (short scale) body on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/281534282580?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT), that could be transformed to a 3000/325 mashup. An easy job, and a 620 lower pickguard should fit:

Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: ilan on December 20, 2014, 11:55:24 PM
Or a simpler single-pickup version, with a logical pickup position:

Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: drbassman on December 21, 2014, 06:57:59 AM
What Dave said. It's way too close to the bridge, and as you can expect, 4005 bridge pickups sound very thin and weak.

If you like that pickguard style, there is a 3000 (short scale) body on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/281534282580?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT), that could be transformed to a 3000/325 mashup. An easy job, and a 620 lower pickguard should fit:

I am on that 3000 auction.  I want that body and neck.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: drbassman on December 21, 2014, 06:58:43 AM
I just don't like that bridge pickup placement, on this one or a 4005.

I agree.  It wasn't such a great idea.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: Lightyear on December 21, 2014, 09:39:42 AM
I am on that 3000 auction.  I want that body and neck.

Looks like it's a Krylon paint job on the body - it should clean up nicely.  I see that the bid is already at $500.00 - what would one of these in playable condition go for?  Regardless, I'm jealous as I've wanted one of these for years now - cash is just too tight right now to think about one.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: ilan on December 21, 2014, 11:41:13 AM
I am on that 3000 auction.  I want that body and neck.
Good luck and hope you get it for the current price.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: Dave W on December 21, 2014, 09:08:03 PM
That 3000 body looks to be in decent shape. Hope you can get it.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: drbassman on December 21, 2014, 10:12:06 PM
I hope it works out.  I could do something nice with it.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: leftybass on December 24, 2014, 08:32:36 AM
I remember a photo of that bass in the old Ric book from the late 80s. I love it!
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: gearHed289 on December 24, 2014, 10:17:54 AM
JPJ played that bass at least once.

(http://www.ledzeppelin-reference.com/geekbaseweb/images/photos/46/1128.jpg)

Cool looking bass. Too bad about the bridge pickup positioning. You could do a nice "tribute" with a 4004, a teardrop pickguard, and a Hipshot bridge.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: drbassman on December 28, 2014, 02:16:18 PM
After some research on the 3000, I decided not to go after it.  Got some other things I'd rather have.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: Dave W on December 28, 2014, 08:55:18 PM
That 3000 body went for $610. Definitely more than I would have paid.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: ilan on December 29, 2014, 01:45:25 AM
After some research on the 3000, I decided not to go after it
What turned you off? The weight?
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: drbassman on December 30, 2014, 05:38:59 PM
That 3000 body went for $610. Definitely more than I would have paid.

I agree.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: Jeff Scott on December 30, 2014, 11:25:35 PM
I guess I'll be the lone vote that the pickups work great where they are.  I am only going by my 38 years of experience on this with lots of recordings and gigs under my belt with my old 4004WB.  8)
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: Paul Boyer on December 31, 2014, 09:11:26 AM
Jeff, do you mean 4005WB?
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: Jeff Scott on December 31, 2014, 10:08:07 PM
Jeff, do you mean 4005WB?
Got your pants all twisted now for a 4004WB?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: Paul Boyer on January 01, 2015, 07:12:09 AM
Well, you could say that the Lemmy is "WB" (with binding), but I don't think you had a Lemmy! ;)
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: Jeff Scott on January 01, 2015, 11:06:19 AM
Nah, a Lemmy is only a .5WB.  We need binding on both sides to fully qualify for WB status, like a 2050 or 2060, for example.  :)
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: ilan on January 01, 2015, 11:19:01 AM
IMHO the teardrop pickguard looks best without body binding.
Title: Re: RIC 4001S/4005 mashup
Post by: Jeff Scott on January 01, 2015, 03:01:36 PM
...I don't think you had a Lemmy! ;)
But.............I have played a couple of them over the years!  8)