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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: copacetic on August 16, 2014, 11:02:39 AM
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Paul McCartney played in San Francisco (Candlestick Park) acouple of nights ago, and Brian Ray was sporting a Black Epiphone SG long scale bass (with a pearly white pickguard and TRC). I was told that he has a Brian Ray Signature SG guitar made by Epiphone that has these same features. The bass is not on Epiphones website. In an interview not too long go, he mentioned that he really liked the tonal aspects and feel of the Epi JC Sig and started getting used to long scale basses. ( previously using the Guild M-85, then the Gibson SG bass, both short scales). As a guitarist he likes the larger Gretch guitars so the JCSig was not too cumbersome and he could still jump around on stage. The Epi he was sporting the other night did look cool. I found the Epi SG basses a little harsh sounding and did not like the long scale neck as it was too thick and neck heavy. Per haps ultra light keys might change things a bit. I'm thinking if he had Epi make this especially for him he might have addresses those glaring features considering the clout he might have by being so visible in MacCartney's band
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Thanks!
Here it is, close up at 6:28:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stATHfH_YcY
Very phat body. The secret recipe to making it balance, but always a bit of a visual sacrifice with an SG shape bass.
Macca can still deliver. Tastefully done cosmetic surgery too though I'm sure John L. would have had a slightly disparaging comment for it!
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Yeah, wondering what the story is with that bass? Mr. Ray had stated in an interview several years ago about his decision to change over from the SG Bass ( as the sound was a bit "tubby" and as he had been playing bass almost half the time for the past 10 years long scales were not as foreign) to the JC Sig.
So Uwe this might not merely be a fin change. There might be more over and under the hood, starting with long scale.
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Several months ago, I was thinking about visiting a friend and noticed there was going to be a Paul McCartney concert near by. Evidently, it's a good idea to buy the tickets as soon as possible. There was nothing except some horrible seats that were so far behind the stage you wouldn't even be able to see anything. It looks like Paul isn't having any trouble at all selling out concerts. From what I understand, everything sold out within minutes.
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Paul played Target Field (http://blog.thecurrent.org/2014/08/paul-mccartney-delivers-a-marathon-three-hour-set-at-target-field/) here on August 2nd, when tickets went on sale in late April they were gone in 20 minutes.
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Paul played Target Field (http://blog.thecurrent.org/2014/08/paul-mccartney-delivers-a-marathon-three-hour-set-at-target-field/) here on August 2nd, when tickets went on sale in late April they were gone in 20 minutes.
It sounds very much like the concert I missed, three hours and over 40 songs.
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Tastefully done cosmetic surgery too though I'm sure John L. would have had a slightly disparaging comment for it!
Yeah, well John is not around, so I'll say that he looks like a cross between Don Imus and my Oma.
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Yeah, well John is not around, so I'll say that he looks like a cross between Don Imus and my Oma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1_qBjWBIjk
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Yeah, well John is not around, so I'll say that he looks like a cross between Don Imus and my Oma.
I've never heard the term "Oma" before. I had to look it up. I'm pretty sure I've never heard that even once in my life. I'm assuming it's not Ontario Medical Association and is instead an informal word for grandma. It's kind of strange how there can be so many different words for grandmother and grandfather in the English language.
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I've never heard the term "Oma" before. I had to look it up. I'm pretty sure I've never heard that even once in my life. I'm assuming it's not Ontario Medical Association and is instead an informal word for grandma. It's kind of strange how there can be so many different words for grandmother and grandfather in the English language.
I'll wait for Uwe to handle this one...
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I'll wait for Uwe to handle this one...
Earlier tonight I was talking to a friend who has lived half her life in the South and half in the North. I asked her about the term. She said she has heard it up North, but can't remember hearing it down South. She is a Southerner who now speaks with a Northern accent from living in the Northwest for the past 20+ years. Anyway, "oma" to my ears sounds like something from a Hindu chant, not that there is anything wrong with that of course. My friend's guess is that the word may be from Norwegian. I'd guess it might be from German or Dutch, but really I don't know.
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One of my best friends growing up had an Oma, who was the mother of his Austrian father. Opa was gone by the time I met her, but Oma lived to be 101 or so. I'd have to say I agree with the comparison.
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My friend's guess is that the word may be from Norwegian.
Never heard it here before, but then again - I´m from the south of Norway :)
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Opa en oma is normal in Dutch for grandfather and grandmother. Haven't heard it in another language yet. Maybe it has to do with Dutch immigrants?
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There's never a German lawyer around when you need one... :sad:
My father's family were German immigrants in the late 1920s, so in my case it originated there.
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Opa en oma is normal in Dutch for grandfather and grandmother. Haven't heard it in another language yet. Maybe it has to do with Dutch immigrants?
The German language uses them too, Chris
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Yes, and that is why Lowend's posting had me totally baffled, I was rubbing my eyes in disbelief. I had never heard Oma or Opa in another langugage.
You're all Germans (mostly) after all.
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I live in Central Texas which is basically New Germany, hear Oma/Opa a lot.
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It's interesting that those two terms would survive - vocal-heavy as they are, they don't even sound that German. You guys probably pronounce it oh-ma and oh-pa as in "Oh my God", right? In German it is a bit more uh-ma or uh-pa (pronounce the "uh" like the "o" in odd, but longer) or, in some regions, uhmma or uhppa (as in Pink Floyd's Umma Gumma with the emphasis on the ending "a").
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I live in Central Texas which is basically New Germany, hear Oma/Opa a lot.
The friend I mentioned was originally from Texas, too, where she lived for twenty years before moving to the Pacific Northwest. It's very possible she was relating to hearing the term there instead of thinking she had heard it up North. Nevertheless, it was obvious she was familiar with it but I wasn't.
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In German it is a bit more uh-ma or uh-pa (pronounce the "uh" like the "o" in odd, but longer) or, in some regions, uhmma or uhppa (as in Pink Floyd's Umma Gumma with the emphasis on the ending "a").
Didn´t Hawkwind have a song called Opa-loka?
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My wife's family immigrated form Germay in '36, I'll have to ask her about this.
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... or, in some regions, uhmma or uhppa ...
That's what my stepdad's kids called their grandparents.
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My wife's family immigrated form Germany in '36 ...
I can assume why. :-\ Lucky.
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Yeah, '36 was really cutting it close. As I mentioned earlier, my dad's family left in '29-'30 because of the economy over there, and ironically landed smack in the middle of the Depression here. By '43 he was behind a Browning M1917 in Italy. Fortunately, a nasty case of trenchfoot got him sent stateside to West Point, where he was tapped as an interpreter to keep an eye on the POWs. I always found it odd that they would transfer prisoners there, of all places. Not exactly Gitmo...
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I don't know much about my German heritage. All I know is my Grandfather was from Chicago. His side of the family had already been in this country for at least a couple generations before he ran away from an unstable family and joined the Navy at 17 right at the start of the war. He had an Aunt named Rose Miller. She was a good friend of Armand Hammer from what I've heard and was quite wealthy when she passed.
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I'm beginning to wonder if there is anyone here without some German roots. In my case, it was my great-great-grandfather who came over from Germany.
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I'm beginning to wonder if there is anyone here without some German roots...
Maybe that explains this story I saw the other day: Lederhosen Maker Opens First U.S. Store in Cincinnati (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/21/business/lederhosen-maker-opens-first-us-store-in-cincinnati.html?_r=0)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO93OT3P30g
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The movie didn't do very well, but I thought Eric Idle's character was funny.
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Maybe that explains this story I saw the other day: Lederhosen Maker Opens First U.S. Store in Cincinnati (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/21/business/lederhosen-maker-opens-first-us-store-in-cincinnati.html?_r=0)
I think it's safe to say this isn't going to go over well.
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My knowledge is that previous to and over the existence of the US, Germans constitued the largest part of the immigrants from anywhere. It is just that their immigaration was a continuous one, without too many ups and downs and that they assimilated quickly and quietly, so there was never a real perception of them as an ethnic group.
I remember how almost anyone in the Nixon administration in the 70ies - not just the heavy-accented guy from Nürnberg - had German origin last names.
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It is just that their immigaration was a continuous one, without too many ups and downs and that they assimilated quickly and quietly, so there was never a real perception of them as an ethnic group.
Very true. My father told me that when they first got to the US, representatives of local German organizations and clubs would routinely show up on their doorstep, asking his parents to join. "Oma" would always tell them "We came here to become Americans - why would I want to join a group made up of only Germans?" You don't see that attitude so much among immigrants these days.
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I'm from Cincinnati...the vast majority of people here (of European ancestry) are of German ancestry.
You can still get a good beer here, but it's getting harder to find good traditional German food.
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From what I've been told, my father's ancestors left Germany 400-500 years ago for Ireland of all places. And while my last name Heslin sounds German, it had previously been O'hEisleanain. That was changed long before my grandfather came to Chicago in the 1920s though.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/german-american-history-2013-10
An explanation of why there are so many German-Americans.
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That was interesting, danke!
(http://static7.depositphotos.com/1006360/778/i/950/depositphotos_7787332-Postage-stamp-Germany-1994-Baron-Friedrich-von-Steuben.jpg)
Flash thought: Do Austrians count too? Probably depends on the year, right? :vader:
(http://www.got-big.de/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_Stay_Hungry.jpg)
A most unfortunate pic (if it's not photoshopped, these days you never know) of the Herr Gubernator, wenn ich das sagen darf, prone to be misconstrued in its motives.
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Being from Ohio, I can attest that the place is crawling with German heritage in the central and southern part. Lots of Poles in Cleveland and Scots in the south along the Ohio River. Very diverse heritage, but in the end they all made great Americans!!!
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Oh those Krazy Krauts!
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/lowend1/Arnold1.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/lowend1/media/Arnold1.jpg.html)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/lowend1/Arnold2.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/lowend1/media/Arnold2.jpg.html)
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Uwe, if you're making the trip over for this, look me up. It's only a few miles from me. ;D
http://www.bergencountyhistory.org/
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Many Germans in the north east, and different Germans in the midwest. Many Volga Deutsche too. Good farming volk.
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But (outside of Germany) only New Ulm MN has Hermann the German (http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11260).
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If I ever get to MN iam going here: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/24360 (http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/24360)
(http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/mn/MNKAStank_holland_620x300.jpg)
I had heard of it previously, but didn't know the location. Even the most basic package allows you to drive an armored vehicle and shoot a machine gun.
http://www.driveatank.com/
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That was interesting, danke!
(http://static7.depositphotos.com/1006360/778/i/950/depositphotos_7787332-Postage-stamp-Germany-1994-Baron-Friedrich-von-Steuben.jpg)
Flash thought: Do Austrians count too? Probably depends on the year, right? :vader:
(http://www.got-big.de/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_Stay_Hungry.jpg)
A most unfortunate pic (if it's not photoshopped, these days you never know) of the Herr Gubernator, wenn ich das sagen darf, prone to be misconstrued in its motives.
Certainly, Von Steuben's importance has always been recognized in the history books and that's a good thing.
I don't usually pay much attention to stamps, but that one is really cool.
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That's quite a stimulus package ;)
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Austrians don't count. Well, except for John Banner.
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The weight lifting photos are creepy, in my honest working-class west side opinion...
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The weight lifting photos are creepy, in my honest working-class west side opinion...
Not for somebody genuinely interested in body building. When I was a teenager, something like that would have had great interest to me. Now, though, it is of no interest to me at all.
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Opa en oma is normal in Dutch for grandfather and grandmother. Haven't heard it in another language yet.
In Korean oma means mother. Odd that the same word in two very different, unrelated languages would have such similar meaning.