The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Rickenbacker Basses => Topic started by: ilan on April 26, 2014, 06:35:06 AM
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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/wholesales-New-Arrival-4-String-Electric-Bass-Guitar-in-blue-R8-South-Korea-accessories-with/1383733760.html
(http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v1/1383733760_1/wholesales-New-Arrival-4-String-4003-Electric-Bass-Guitar-R8-South-Korea-accessories--with-case.jpg)
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I have ordered one from DHgate, it should arrive in three weeks time. A real 4004LK is far too expensive for me to consider and I like the look of them so a copy will do just fine. I don't expect much of it; at the very least it will be nice to hang on the wall. ;)
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You know if there's a way to go after them, RIC will do it.
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I expect it will be cut up once it makes land fall.
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Interesting details:
Item specifics
is_customized: Yes
Color: Clear
Type: Electric Guitar
Brand Name: G
Bow Material: Brazil Wood
Tone Position: 22
Back / Side Material: Maple
Model Number: custom
Body Material: Mahogany
Fingerboard Material: rose wood
Place of Origin: Nevada, United States
if you need a guitar Headstock pictures, please contact us
In our delivery, we will test the guitar to ensure that every product you sent out are normal, no problem, your satisfaction is our most important. If you find the guitar you made in the past have damaged or abnormal local stations in time by letter to contact us, we are prepared to withdraw the products in question, or re-shipped to you or give you a refund, if Is the question of our products we will take appropriate freight.
You may be wondering how such an amazing product could be so cheap, It is possible because it has been manufactured in china, where labour is cheap. Cheap labour does not mean that has been compromised; all parts are of the highest and have been imported from overseas.
I wonder where they import the parts from.
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They all come with a brazilwood bow ;)
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The guy that I ordered the bass from told me that the pickups are Korean and the tuners are Japanese. He said nothing about the bridge so I assume that is Chinese.
RIC is aware of these copies but I think they know that going after Chinese companies in China is a waste of money. It is a jungle out there, Chinese companies will copy anything and put any name you want on it. There is a company with an office in the USA that sells these basses, John Hall replied a month ago in a thread on the Rickresource forum about that. They still have the basses complete with a Rickenbacker logo on the truss rod cover on their site.
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I have ordered one from DHgate, it should arrive in three weeks time. A real 4004LK is far too expensive for me to consider and I like the look of them so a copy will do just fine. I don't expect much of it; at the very least it will be nice to hang on the wall. ;)
If I were you, I'd send it back, the pickups position seem to be all wrong, you'll never get a 4004 sound out of it! :P
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Yabbut, yabbut... I wanted a cuckoo clock when I was a little boy. I can't pass on this opportunity to combine a childhood trauma with a grown-up hobby. ;)
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I thought this thread was gonna be about a Korean guy passing himself off as Lemmy...
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Couldn't find a Korean Motorhead trib, but will this do instead...?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE9f3eC4FzM
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This looks interesting.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-selling-Hot-Model-4001-V63-Bass-Guitar-electric-guitar/654655614.html
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It looks like a real v63 JG with a Hipshot bridge/tailpiece.
I bet what you get from aliexpress for $315 will be slightly different.
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Yeah, "slightly."
Be skeptical of low-priced "Rickenbackers" coming out of China. What you get is not what you see. This one is clearly a real V63 in the photos, but that's likely not the one you'll get for that money.
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There are really two major issues with this one. First - I agree totally that the odds of pulling something that looks like that v63 out of a box from China are pretty slim. Second - it is entirely possible for a Chinese factory to make a dead on copy of a V63 and ship to your door for $315.
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Tell me again, why don't they show pictures of the headstock?
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Second - it is entirely possible for a Chinese factory to make a dead on copy of a V63 and ship to your door for $315.
Color me doubtful. Helen Keller might not be able to tell the difference but I don't think anyone familiar with Ricks would be fooled by any cheap copy from China or wherever. Rickenbacker's finishing process takes a certain skill level and many hours; any Asian copy you get for $315 will have a quick polyester spray which will be durable but won't be the same.
Some things can easily be copied exactly. Others require a knowledge or skill that require a knowledge of what goes into a good guitar, not just mindless copying.
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It's here. :)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/John_RSC/Faker/DSCF0071rc_zps635d40aa.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/John_RSC/media/Faker/DSCF0071rc_zps635d40aa.jpg.html)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/John_RSC/Faker/DSCF0072s_zps8e40aa39.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/John_RSC/media/Faker/DSCF0072s_zps8e40aa39.jpg.html)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/John_RSC/Faker/DSCF0079s_zps63af6bc9.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/John_RSC/media/Faker/DSCF0079s_zps63af6bc9.jpg.html)
Decently set up straight from the box, there are some minor flaws that you only notice when you look real close. Plays well, sounds good, looks good, I am happy with my faker.
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Nice! And very special. Body wings are ash, I presume? If it's the same depth as a maple-bodied Ric, this one must be light.
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I don't know what kind of wood it is. It looks like alder to me but has a more pronounced grain. Definitely not light, the bass weighs 10.6 pounds.
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Nice! For what it is it looks like a good score.
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The wood could be sen. Sometimes called sen ash, but it isn't an ash species.
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the bass weighs 10.6 pounds.
Wow that's heavy.
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Glad it's working out for you. If it's any consolation, your bass is still lighter than my 78' Precision.
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The body wings could use a darker tint to match a real 4004LK. Just a thought.
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It's here. :)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/John_RSC/Faker/DSCF0071rc_zps635d40aa.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/John_RSC/media/Faker/DSCF0071rc_zps635d40aa.jpg.html)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/John_RSC/Faker/DSCF0072s_zps8e40aa39.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/John_RSC/media/Faker/DSCF0072s_zps8e40aa39.jpg.html)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/John_RSC/Faker/DSCF0079s_zps63af6bc9.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/John_RSC/media/Faker/DSCF0079s_zps63af6bc9.jpg.html)
Decently set up straight from the box, there are some minor flaws that you only notice when you look real close. Plays well, sounds good, looks good, I am happy with my faker.
You know what? I doesn't look horrible. If at that price it sounds alright, then everything is fine. It's even a real neck-thru, I'd have never thought.
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They took it to the next level (http://www.dhgate.com/product/custom-4003-bass-4-string-one-piece-neck/193955644.html#s2-15-1). Now with skulls carved into the top and some hardware variation:
(http://www.dhresource.com/albu_750162374_00-1.0x0/Custom%204003%20Bass%204%20string%20one%20piece%20neck%20Bass%20Guitar%20wood%20Manual%20sculpture%20Skeleton%20Electric%20bass%20Made%20in%20China%20free%20shipping.jpg)
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I'm still considering ordering the one with my fake MMT artwork, especially as my 4001S has a new paintjob.
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check out the factory pictures at the bottom of this listing-http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-new-arrival-free-shiping-guitar-factory-left-handed-version-FD-st-4-strings-jazz-bass/1794052543.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-new-arrival-free-shiping-guitar-factory-left-handed-version-FD-st-4-strings-jazz-bass/1794052543.html)
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check out the factory pictures at the bottom of this listing-http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-new-arrival-free-shiping-guitar-factory-left-handed-version-FD-st-4-strings-jazz-bass/1794052543.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-new-arrival-free-shiping-guitar-factory-left-handed-version-FD-st-4-strings-jazz-bass/1794052543.html)
Cozy factory 8)
Í think you will get a satisfied guitar from me` ;D
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In one of the pictures you can see a Fender label on the back of a headstock
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And the worker in that picture has a Fender badge on his shirt.
(http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/643/768/008/1008768643_710.jpg)
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"I think you will get a satisfied guitar from me"
He thinks?
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"I think you will get a satisfied guitar from me"
He thinks?
Oh, come on... Just because he's inspired by fender doesn't mean that he cannot add he's own special design elements
as a luthier?
Wonder if gibson QC would have let this axe through...
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Wonder if gibson QC would have let this axe through...
Yes! Even my beloved (formerly) immaculate, mint, case queen '73 Triumph - perfect *everywhere* - wasn't immune.
Found this lurking under its bridge cover ;D
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/triumph/1114141803b.jpg)
I'm wondering if that might be a Fender (Squier) in that factory pic? My Indonesian Strat mini has a "backed by Fender..." transfer exactly like that on the back of the headstock.
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I'm wondering if that might be a Fender (Squier) in that factory pic? My Indonesian Strat mini has a "backed by Fender..." transfer exactly like that on the back of the headstock.
Could be. Wouldn't surprise me if this factory is a source for multiple companies.
It does bother me that this seller's listing for a LP type guitar shows a Gibson USA type serial number and has Made In USA stamped into the back of the headstock.
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I'm not looking at the photo, but it could be that it is a real US guitar in the photo and he's just "borrowed" the photo.
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Possible, but I've never seen a Gibson with tuners like that.
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Maybe prototypes for a budget robot tuner?
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Since the guitars are forgeries, maybe the factory photos are, too.
:)
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Since the guitars are forgeries, maybe the factory photos are, too.
:)
That's certainly possible.
Reminds me of Grizzly's early catalogs years ago showing workers in a Taiwanese or Chinese factory with Grizzly logos obviously photoshopped onto their work uniforms.
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That's certainly possible.
Reminds me of Grizzly's early catalogs years ago showing workers in a Taiwanese or Chinese factory with Grizzly logos obviously photoshopped onto their work uniforms.
The 'early years' for Grizzly were strictly in Taiwan, around the Taichung area. Taiwan was a Japanese colony from 1900 until the end of WWII. Japan's industrialization expanded to the pro west Taiwan postwar.
There was virtually no woodworking industry in China until the Taiwanese arrived when the enterprise zones were set up. They brought the machinery from the ROC. As recently as 2000 no mainland factory making goods for export used Made in China machinery. It was absolute crap. It's difficult to imagine how quickly mainland China has caught up to the rest of the world.
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Received this from China, and tweaked her a bit. She's a great player and I've used in my last two concerts
(http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy5/tore00/BAC172CE-8D7B-4C6A-9509-50AC5920225F.jpeg) (http://s772.photobucket.com/user/tore00/media/BAC172CE-8D7B-4C6A-9509-50AC5920225F.jpeg.html)
(http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy5/tore00/IMG_9809.jpg) (http://s772.photobucket.com/user/tore00/media/IMG_9809.jpg.html)
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With that bridge does it have the same width neck as a Rick?
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Yes, the string spacing and the neck width are the same of my 4003. Neck profile of real 4003 is a little fatter, but I know that is typical of the time of production of mine (2009)
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I documented my experience with a Chinese seller on Talkbass, per: https://www.talkbass.com/threads/nbd-chinese-dan-armstrong-ampeg-counterfeit.1375360/#post-22030594 (https://www.talkbass.com/threads/nbd-chinese-dan-armstrong-ampeg-counterfeit.1375360/#post-22030594)
A couple of posters got the wrong end of the stick. I'm neither complaining about, or endorsing, these products! The "Dan Armstrong" I bought is a total shed, and will take a bit of work to get it in line.
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I documented my experience with a Chinese seller on Talkbass, per: https://www.talkbass.com/threads/nbd-chinese-dan-armstrong-ampeg-counterfeit.1375360/#post-22030594 (https://www.talkbass.com/threads/nbd-chinese-dan-armstrong-ampeg-counterfeit.1375360/#post-22030594)
A couple of posters got the wrong end of the stick. I'm neither complaining about, or endorsing, these products! The "Dan Armstrong" I bought is a total shed, and will take a bit of work to get it in line.
Only a bit? You're a glutton for punishment.
I like that you posted a realistic picture of what to expect. It always amuses me when someone claims their $100 Les Paul knockoff "smokes" the real thing.
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I have to say that my LK 4003 satisfies me. I replaced bridge and pickup cover but just for aesthetics. I rewired with two stacked vol and added tone adjustements to the 3 way switch. It’s a nice bass that plays well. Quite aggressive, with distortion at the neck pickups but it fine for what I play.
I have a real 4003 that is a very different beast but frankly when I am playing with her, I cannot avoid thinking .... and what’s about if they steal her while I am having third beer after the gig?
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when I retire I'm gonna spend a year with a dremmel and try one of these (not necessarily the ric), but the carving is calling me
how bout a carved bird?
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when I retire I'm gonna spend a year with a dremmel and try one of these (not necessarily the ric), but the carving is calling me
how bout a carved bird?
You mean, like a turkey? :mrgreen:
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Yeah, "slightly."
Be skeptical of low-priced "Rickenbackers" coming out of China. What you get is not what you see. This one is clearly a real V63 in the photos, but that's likely not the one you'll get for that money.
Never mind China ....
Be skeptical of low priced Rickenbackers in general !
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:rimshot:
You mean, like a turkey? :mrgreen: