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Title: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 23, 2014, 11:24:44 AM
No more royalty checks for Gail.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/gail-collins-lyricist-killed-felix-pappalardi-found-dead-article-1.1698818
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: gweimer on February 23, 2014, 12:15:46 PM
Although it's been more than a decade, Leslie was still using his LP Jr. that Collins painted on stage here and there.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Highlander on February 23, 2014, 01:26:12 PM
Finally, one last cold kiss...
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2014, 03:17:05 PM
How she ever got away with nothing more than a negligent homicide conviction that is beyond me. She got 30 years more of life that he didn't, shame it wasn't all behind bars.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: gweimer on February 23, 2014, 03:42:42 PM
How she ever got away with nothing more than a negligent homicide conviction that is beyond me. She got 30 years more of life that he didn't, shame it wasn't all behind bars.

If I recall the story at the time, she shot him because she was unable to live with the open marriage agreement that she and Felix had once reached.  I would need someone with a better memory, or information, to correct me when I state that she shot him after he had come home from a casual encounter somewhere.  I don't know from there, what the foundation of the charges she faced was.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2014, 04:29:39 PM
You remember correctly. She decided to end their open marriage agreement by executing him. It may not have been first degree murder, but it was murder. She didn't just accidentally shoot him out of negligence.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 23, 2014, 05:00:29 PM
This article explains some of the circumstances at the time of the tragic events.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/overnight-tryst-jealous-wife-led-death-rock-legend-shooter-laugh-article-1.121655
I won't celebrate this unfortunate woman's demise, but I will raise a glass for the legacy of Felix! Salute!
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: gweimer on February 23, 2014, 05:07:05 PM
"Buy your wife a diamond ring, some flowers, a pushup bra," he said. "Don't buy her a gun."

No kidding.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2014, 10:27:53 PM
....
I won't celebrate this unfortunate woman's demise, but I will raise a glass for the legacy of Felix! Salute!

Hear, hear!  :toast:
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: uwe on February 24, 2014, 12:57:31 PM
None of us were there. Crimes of passion. Statistics have it that your loved one is the most likely person to kill you too.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Dave W on February 24, 2014, 02:08:57 PM
None of us were there. Crimes of passion. Statistics have it that your loved one is the most likely person to kill you too.

We do know what she did. We just don't know if it was pre-planned or an on-the-spot decision.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: uwe on February 24, 2014, 02:27:57 PM
A gun went off. She was responsible for that. Whether she really wanted to kill him - either pre-determined or right then and there - is another matter. No, you don't mess with guns in front of people. But she's not the first and she's not the last who might have had a blackout in a relationship strife.

Granted: That she called her attorney first and an ambulance only second is a disturbing detail. I'm not saying she isn't guilty of manslaughter or deadly assault or whatever, but as a lawyer I'm prepared to give her the benefit of (a little) doubt, you know how we are ...
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: westen44 on February 24, 2014, 02:43:00 PM
I've never been able to see why committing a murder that was planned or one that someone spontaneously decided to commit makes all that much difference.  Definitely, premeditated murder is worse, but it's only a matter of degree.  It's not like the dead person gets to feel better if his murder wasn't planned. 

One other point is that Gail Collins had her cats put to death.  She could at least made an attempt to find a home for them.  Frankly, just thinking about her kind of pisses me off anyway.  Not a fan. 
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Pilgrim on February 24, 2014, 03:31:13 PM
I've never heard of her before, and given the info presented in this thread, I'm quite happy about that.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Highlander on February 24, 2014, 04:49:00 PM
She was pretty much out-there, Al, and certainly a part of the story that was/is Mountain, from the songs and lyrics to the original artwork they used...

Music is littered with joy and tragedy...
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: westen44 on February 24, 2014, 05:47:56 PM
Corky Laing--an insider's view. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgMKDd9pYJk
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Highlander on February 25, 2014, 12:56:08 AM
Leslie's POV...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pjHaMyId1w

Let's make this a memory Felix and not the negative, which would be too easy... videos with him are fairly scarce, but they are out there...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrarkUzRJ4w

www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1jy5JBbw0s

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FplFq9EXiSM
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Highlander on February 25, 2014, 01:07:17 AM
Not Felix, but what he saw in the "fat kid from Queens" - a rather surprising find...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OvNPhrr33Y
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 27, 2014, 12:25:56 PM
David Rea had a writing credit on Mississippi Queen and got Felix, Corky and Leslie to play on his own album.
I haven't heard this before and thought I mine as well share it here.
Sure sounds like Corky on the skins and probably Leslie playing some slide. Don't know if Felix is playing bass or something else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqgS22eb_5Q
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: saltymonkey on February 27, 2014, 02:26:45 PM
Not Felix, but what he saw in the "fat kid from Queens" - a rather surprising find..

That Vagrants album was re-released last year by Light In The Attic records. I bought the 180g vinyl. It's pretty great, a garage rock classic.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Highlander on February 27, 2014, 02:31:40 PM
Never knew there was anything more than that track on that Nuggets compilation...

Dug around and found the credits for that David Rea album...

Bass – Felix Pappalardi, Norbert Putnam
Drums – Kenny Buttrey
Guitar, Vocals – David Rea
Harmonica – Charlie McCoy
Lead Guitar – Leslie West
Producer – David Rea, Felix Pappalardi

Credits for his second LP, By The Grace Of God

Banjo – David Rea
Bass – John Turi, Ron Blanco, Tom Robb
Drums – Corky Laing, Dino Danelli
Fiddle – Mike Seeger
Guitar – Auburn Burrell
Guitar, Vocals – Leslie West
Guitar, Vocals, Producer – David Rea
Organ, Piano, Vocals – Gary Ship
Producer – Bob d'Orleans
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: saltymonkey on February 27, 2014, 02:40:17 PM
Never knew there was anything more than that track on that Nuggets compilation...

I guess its actually a collection of all their singles, 12 tracks, rather than an LP reissue. Here's a link:

http://lightintheattic.net/releases/510-i-can-t-make-a-friend-1965-1968
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Highlander on February 27, 2014, 02:45:38 PM
Larry West on bass... a relative...?
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: gweimer on February 27, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Since we're on the subject, here's the band that never was.  After hearing Corky's interview, I can guess why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-9rab2eX0
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 27, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
Dug around and found the credits for that David Rea album...

Bass – Felix Pappalardi, Norbert Putnam
Drums – Kenny Buttrey
Guitar, Vocals – David Rea
Harmonica – Charlie McCoy
Lead Guitar – Leslie West
Producer – David Rea, Felix Pappalardi
The credits on all music include Corky on drums and Gerald Jemmott on bass as well. I would think they meant Jerry Jemmott who is a monster player. Norbert Putnam cut lots of great studio tracks too. Shame you can only get it on vinyl.
http://www.allmusic.com/album/maverick-child-mw0000844034/credits
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 27, 2014, 03:07:13 PM
Larry West on bass... a relative...?

His brother. He plays bass on Long Red on Leslie's latest album Still Climbing.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: saltymonkey on February 27, 2014, 03:21:37 PM
His brother. He plays bass on Long Red on Leslie's latest album Still Climbing.

In the liner notes there's an interview with Johnny Ramone. They all went to Forest Hills High School at the same time. He said he mostly knew Larry from study hall. He was pretty much on permanent suspension 'cause all he cared about was The Vagrants and growing his hair.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: nofi on February 28, 2014, 08:15:31 AM
someone tell me about the phantom keyboard guy. he's there, you can see and hear him yet no one talks or writes about him. discussions about mountain never include old what's his name. ???
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: gweimer on February 28, 2014, 08:54:15 AM
someone tell me about the phantom keyboard guy. he's there, you can see and hear him yet no one talks or writes about him. discussions about mountain never include old what's his name. ???

Steve Knight?
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 28, 2014, 08:56:23 AM
Steve Knight was a good guy. I think he passed away not too long ago. It was more of Felix's desire to have a keys player than Leslie's I think. He did well considering what he had to contend with on stage. He wasn't in the band for their entire run. Honorable mention should go out to Bob Mann who did a great job doubling keys and guitar on the Twin Peaks album.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Highlander on February 28, 2014, 05:43:33 PM
Agreed about Jerry Jemmot... got him on material with Duane Allman - Muscle Shoals stuff...

Steve Knight passed just over a year back now... rip
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 28, 2014, 07:44:52 PM
Jerry and Duane both played on the Otis Rush album Mourning in the Morning. Just saw on Jack Bruce's Facebook page that it's one of his favorite albums. There's an article in Mojo and a pic of Jack holding his Warwick signature bass with the SG shape. Jack's got a new album coming out too.
Title: Re: Gail Collins Dead
Post by: Highlander on March 01, 2014, 03:07:57 PM
I may still have that LP but I recorded off a lot of stuff and sold on prior to going CD and now MP3 ... it was not one of my DA fave LP's...

It's a shame WB&L burned out as  soon as it did...

There were a few LP's they both (DA & JJ) played on that I had... a couple of Aretha, Herbie Mann's Push Push... I'd have to go digging to find them or the DA anthology sets to check...