C(h)ruciomify me, but I think the black hardware looks great on the blue meanie, mucho better than chrome. And the three point makes for an altogether more uncluttered look.
Scott, you have my decision, I'd like a blue one!!! Shall I transfer money to you?
Best
Uwe
But even the original Non Revs were not all matching headstock color.
Most, not all. Unless they were all refins, I've seen pics of supposedly original ones that had a black headstock (but only with Non Revs, not Revs). If Gibson had black headstocks finsihed, you can bet they did not refin them.
My hunch is also that they would have given that pelham blue one a pelham blue headstock if that had been the only way they had done it in the past.
I'd bet the blue one has a black headstock because it fits in their current manufacturing scheme, and it costs money to change things.
Boo, still can't see pics.
I'd bet the blue one has a black headstock because it fits in their current manufacturing scheme, and it costs money to change things.
Don't like it but that's not a surprise since I don't like the modern reverse-birds either. They make Firebird with all the right parts but can't do the same with their basses?
Can't imagine you would have been quite as choosy with your nose flattened against a window of a music shop offering these exactly in today's shape and form in 1968!
In answer to your RANT!!!!!!!!!!! :
It's the same body shape, but with different hardware and electronics, it's not a reissue. Likewise with all of the other "reissues" you mention.
Yet Gibson has no problem at all making reasonably accurate reissues of their guitars, even though most of them aren't to vintage original specs. No problem at all, even with perennial poor sellers like the Firebird.
Guys like Roman @ BaCH, Carlo, Scott, and Steve @ Thunderbucker have been able to come up with hardware and electronics more in keeping with the original, but Gibson with its much bigger resources can't manage to do this except with guitars. It's a direct slap in the face to its bass customers. They will give their guitar customers real choices, but when it comes to bass, you'll take what they dish out and like it.
Guess they figure their bass customer base is complacent enough to accept this, and they're probably right. But IMHO it's no way to run a business.
I fully agree with you, Dave.
In answer to your RANT!!!!!!!!!!! :
It's the same body shape, but with different hardware and electronics, it's not a reissue. Likewise with all of the other "reissues" you mention.
The differences of thereissue, sorry :-[,"so-called new bass looking a bit like one they already had some decades ago, but of course much uglier"
are slight to anybody but the most fervent trainspotters. Most esteemed members of this cherished forum don't even have the eyesight anymore to tell whether "an old one" or "a new one" were played on stage viewing it from the back of a small hall with less than daylight lighting. 8) 8) 8)
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No, I don't agree that it's a "gentle update." The Firebird Studio NR qualifies as a gentle update. All Gibson did here was take current electronics and hardware and throw it on a NR Firebird body.
Yeah but what are you going to do about that ugly second route? ;D
The one by the bridge ;) I am lamenting that it's a IV and not a II.
Duh, I get it! I'd prefer a II also, but you take what you can get!Ain't that the truth!
Which is exactly what I expected they were going to do since we first heard there was going to be a non-reverse. I am happy with the result. Well, I would be happier with matching headstock and the bridge from the Thunderbird Studio, but I am really liking the black hardware on blue.
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And isn't the Firebird Studio also just current electronics and hardware on an NR Firebird body?
If circumstances were different I'd go for one of these, but I'd want to change the colour, probably a red candy, but the blue would be a close second...
I remember discussing that I was never a fan of the shape, that the "reverse" was never a true "mirror", but as I've seen them over the years I've grown to really like them...
Enjoy...
I will probably get flamed when I say this but...I have no nostalgia for the "original" Gibson basses. That's why I always played a Fender or RIC except for a one month stint with a Ripper (it was a good bass). This is just my opinion, but I think you can compare an old EBO to an old Fender absolutely unplugged, and the body of the Fender will resonate much more musically without even being plugged in (I did this many many years ago).I won't flame you, I have tons of respect for Fender. That said I'm NR Thunderbird through and through.
I do like the NR design a lot. If the pickups and body shape combine to make this a lively and resonant instrument, I would be interested. The shape is definitely cool.
What I look for is a good well balanced sound with great note definition. I like a solid bottom, screaming highs, and a good "click" when I use a pick.
No nostalgia here...YMMV
I will probably get flamed when I say this but...I have no nostalgia for the "original" Gibson basses. That's why I always played a Fender or RIC except for a one month stint with a Ripper (it was a good bass). This is just my opinion, but I think you can compare an old EBO to an old Fender absolutely unplugged, and the body of the Fender will resonate much more musically without even being plugged in (I did this many many years ago).
I do like the NR design a lot. If the pickups and body shape combine to make this a lively and resonant instrument, I would be interested. The shape is definitely cool.
What I look for is a good well balanced sound with great note definition. I like a solid bottom, screaming highs, and a good "click" when I use a pick.
No nostalgia here...YMMV
HOG doesn't react to my email, Scott! I assume that shipping directly to Germany is not kosher to them (they are not allowed under their Gibson distributorship agreements to ship into territories other than the US, neither are all the online dealers like Musician's Friend or Sweetwater which is why Mark gets them all first). They probably think I'm some disguised Gibson attorney wishing to lure them into a breach of their distributor contract!
Or that you wish to sell them feeeelthy verboten fingerboard woods...... :o
HOG doesn't react to my email, Scott! I assume that shipping directly to Germany is not kosher to them (they are not allowed under their Gibson distributorship agreements to ship into territories other than the US, neither are all the online dealers like Musician's Friend or Sweetwater which is why Mark gets them all first). They probably think I'm some disguised Gibson attorney wishing to lure them into a breach of their distributor contract!
HOG doesn't react to my email, Scott! I assume that shipping directly to Germany is not kosher to them (they are not allowed under their Gibson distributorship agreements to ship into territories other than the US, neither are all the online dealers like Musician's Friend or Sweetwater which is why Mark gets them all first). They probably think I'm some disguised Gibson attorney wishing to lure them into a breach of their distributor contract!Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm we'll figure something.
Vee haff ze vvays to bake your maple!!! Feuer frei!!!
(http://www.precision-panzer.moonfruit.com/communities/9/004/006/621/409/images/4535684415.jpg)
its the kiln drying technique for those new ethical fingerboards.
is that tony levin's 3 string bass.
GC guys won't know anything about them until they actually get them in stock.
It's lovely to have you around Daan!