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Title: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: 4stringer77 on August 06, 2012, 06:37:56 AM
http://s1151.photobucket.com/albums/o632/4stringer77/?albumview=slideshow
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: dadagoboi on August 06, 2012, 07:08:14 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: the mojo hobo on August 06, 2012, 09:54:48 AM
Nice, but where are the little lines with numbers that tell you where to put your fingers?
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: 4stringer77 on August 06, 2012, 10:39:27 AM
Tab will only limit your abilities in the long run. Music notation is the most efficient way to convey how to play something, particularly when it comes to rhythms. Learning to read music may seem hard, but the benefit justifies the effort.
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: Dave W on August 06, 2012, 10:43:30 AM
I can't even begin to figure out tab, it's counter-intuitive to me. Probably because I learned to read way back in elementary school string class. Never even heard of tab until years later.
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: patman on August 06, 2012, 11:07:48 AM
I prefer standard notation for bass...although I don't read as well as I should anymore.

I prefer tab for banjo...you have all kinds of tunings, and it's pretty much impossible to play w/o tab(for me).
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: Pilgrim on August 06, 2012, 11:33:55 AM
I can't even begin to figure out tab, it's counter-intuitive to me. Probably because I learned to read way back in elementary school string class. Never even heard of tab until years later.

My experience exactly.  When I returned to playing music in the late 90's, I was quite surprised to learn that many musicians have never learned to read music.  Tab is a poor substitute IMO. I think that I struggle with tab because I have a trained response to interpret the numbers as notes.

In that Mr Big transcription - it may be a lack or artistry on my part, but I'd probably take all that stuff that's on high frets on the G string and move it down an octave.
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: nofi on August 06, 2012, 12:41:49 PM
tab is a mystery to me as well. ???
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: dadagoboi on August 06, 2012, 01:02:03 PM
In that Mr Big transcription - it may be a lack or artistry on my part, but I'd probably take all that stuff that's on high frets on the G string and move it down an octave.

Works for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT1F0AN9-PE
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: uwe on August 06, 2012, 05:44:24 PM
I can read tab ok (not that I ever really need to, I'm pretty good at picking out a bass part by ear by now), but I wish I could read notes. I certainly had no talent for it, people who started with  me taking lessons from my (jazz inspired) bass teacher were much quicker on the ball. I tried for about two years and never really got to the point where I could play something at a normal speed in eights fluidly (or by the time I could I had actually learned it by heart and wasn't reading anymore). Probably has to do with the fact that I'm hardly numerate. Tab is primitive but descriptive, it's like drawing a car as a symbol rather than writing "car" in letters.

If I could sight-read I would probably play more classical pieces just for the heck of it. To learn Dee Dee Ramone bass lines it is of kinda limited use ...

Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: 4stringer77 on August 06, 2012, 06:16:45 PM
I'll work on posting some tab for Uwe.
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: Highlander on August 07, 2012, 02:15:59 PM
I recently worked in a tape storage site and had my hands on the master tape; in fact I pretty much found all of there tapes, including the twenty tracks recorded for Free Live  ;D
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: leftybass on August 07, 2012, 02:30:29 PM
I don't read music, used to in the 70s when I played trumpet in Junior High. I use tab for figuring out something I can't by ear.
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: 4stringer77 on August 07, 2012, 05:46:39 PM
Woah! You saw the masters HERBIE? That's brilliant. Hope you had a chance to listen to them. Bet it sounds cooler without the same overdubbed applause before each track. Also, I served up a new transcription for ya Lefty, this time with Tab. Blood of the Sun from the Mountain album by Leslie West.
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: Highlander on August 08, 2012, 03:10:13 PM
No chance of listening; they are in a secure storage depot with a few other million reels - I tried to find the pics I took but presently mislaid - the names Ken or Kenny but that varies according to how annoying I am being; the "name" also changes annually and relates to the age I feel at the time... ;D

Is the passing resemblance to your avatar to a certain Mr P entirely coincidental...?
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: 4stringer77 on August 08, 2012, 03:40:22 PM
That's Felix in the avatar. He's one of my inspirations and the reason I have an EB1 and a Sunn 2000s. I have a group photo of all my axes on the reboot non reverse bird thread over in the project mods and repairs section. I admire your vegetarian dedication. The world would definitely be a better place if people cut down on their intake of animal products.
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: Highlander on August 09, 2012, 02:28:45 PM
Spotted that pic - Uwe may have one of Felix' EB1's but purely because of the instrument and not the provenance...

This is "one" of the Mr Big masters... from the live set - there were about 3 others I found on 2" tape
(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu280/kjrstewart/random%20stuff/201204FREE2.jpg)

These are some of the master tapes - the library is stored by a barcode system and is somewhat random, with hefty fire protection and all the other type of stuff you'ld expect...
(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu280/kjrstewart/random%20stuff/201204FREE4.jpg) (http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu280/kjrstewart/random%20stuff/201204FREE8.jpg)

"Free Live!" is essentially four tapes - one in the image is a duplicate... all on 1" tape
(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu280/kjrstewart/random%20stuff/201204FREE3.jpg)

TAPE 1 Croydon
Ride On A Pony
Woman
I'm A Mover
Baby Be My Friend
Fire And Water

TAPE 2 Croydon
Songs Of Yesterday
Don't Say You Love Me
Mr Big
Walk In My Shadow
Stealer

TAPE 3 Croydon
Alright Now
Hunter

TAPE 1 Sunderland
Trouble On Double Time
Moonshine
Hunter
Alright Now
? blurred image - Cr???? looks like one word
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: gweimer on August 09, 2012, 02:35:59 PM
I can read music (from old French Horn and piano days), but my fingers are completely without a clue what to do at this point.  Tab is harder to follow than charts, so I have always gone with my ear.
I shouldn't even mention that the father of my old singer not only has a lot of old master rehearsal tapes from the Funk Brothers, but apparently, also one of the recording consoles out of the original studio.
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: Highlander on August 09, 2012, 02:37:36 PM
Strewth...! can you imagine what passed through that console... 8)
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: 4stringer77 on August 09, 2012, 04:06:57 PM
That's too cool! I wouldn't last long working there before giving in to temptation. Name's Ari btw.
Title: Re: Free Mr. Big Live transcribed
Post by: Highlander on August 10, 2012, 03:36:13 PM
... and a belated welcome, Ari...