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Title: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: dc10bass on September 22, 2011, 07:52:03 AM

Group...

I bought a 1965 Gibson EB-0 bass that had been modified to an EB-3.
The original finish which was Cherry Stain, was poor to the point beyond a "cool" worn vintage instrument look.

I have already stripped the finish off the bass and there is no neck break or damage to "cover up".

I was going to restore it to it's original finish but figured since it's already been modified from an EB-0 to an EB-3 I may want to consider another color.

...also wanting to consider any future resale value by changing from the original finish.

...and does anyone know where I can get Pelham Blue paint that is a match to Gibson's paint.

Thanks for your valued input!
Curt

Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: Highlander on September 22, 2011, 10:54:36 AM
White... ;)
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: dc10bass on September 22, 2011, 11:37:21 AM
White... ;)

HA!
I knew someone would chime in with white... but not before I got a vote on my two choices!  :)
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: drbassman on September 22, 2011, 11:53:57 AM
I'm going do my EB-3 in vintage white.
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: dc10bass on September 22, 2011, 12:00:24 PM
I'm going do my EB-3 in vintage white.

Alright you "White" people... i've added White to the Poll.  :)
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: Dave W on September 22, 2011, 12:39:03 PM
Cherry!
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: jumbodbassman on September 22, 2011, 01:30:12 PM
cherry.

 did i also mention cherry
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: FrankieTbird on September 22, 2011, 01:47:53 PM
I don't know how accurate the color is but here is Pelham Blue from the ReRanch:

http://reranchstore.stores.yahoo.net/pelhamblue.html

You can top coat it with tinted clear if you want a more yellowed "vintage" look.
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: chromium on September 22, 2011, 04:43:39 PM
Nice that RR offers Pelham blue now!  Hadn't noticed that.  I went with their Ocean Turquoise on my BaCH - closest they had at the time I refinished it.  Kinda gave it that greenish hue that I was after, without having to yellow it with amber tint (had worries about being able to pull that off effectively)

I think the EBs look great in custom colors.

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/eb3/IMG_0986.jpg)

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/eb-related/photo1_f9e5a.jpg)
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: hieronymous on September 22, 2011, 05:00:04 PM
I think the white looks cool, but had to go with Pelham Blue because that's the color of my Melody Maker Bass:

(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7228/melodymakerbody3.jpg)
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: Nocturnal on September 22, 2011, 06:04:21 PM
My vote is for the Pelham Blue.
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: Pilgrim on September 22, 2011, 07:18:25 PM
I like Cherry, but it's so common (and i have one I'm very happy with).  Either of the other colors would be more unusual and eye-catching.
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: Highlander on September 23, 2011, 12:51:16 PM
HA!
I knew someone would chime in with white...

Sorry (not), Curt... ;D
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: Barklessdog on September 30, 2011, 11:06:15 AM
white is just too classic & cool looking

My EB-0 project bass

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/MY%20BASSES/reclining.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/MY%20BASSES/chair.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/MY%20BASSES/eborefl.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/MY%20BASSES/ebhed.jpg)
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: Greg_M on October 14, 2011, 07:02:57 AM
First post here

I also have an EB-0 to EB-3 project, except it's an Epiphone that I bought off CL for $75. I think a truck ran over it. I have it stripped and sanded and am waiting for some mahogany to plug the bridge holes with. Then it gets that beautiful transparent brown the was offered by Gibson in the late 60s.

I'm also trying to find a medium scale neck for it but that's turning into quite a job.
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: dc10bass on October 14, 2011, 07:08:02 AM

I'm also trying to find a medium scale neck for it but that's turning into quite a job.

Welcome Greg!

...you will find many Epi EB necks on eBay!
There always seems to be one or two there all the time.

Good Luck with your project!
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: drbassman on October 14, 2011, 07:10:52 AM
First post here

I also have an EB-0 to EB-3 project, except it's an Epiphone that I bought off CL for $75. I think a truck ran over it. I have it stripped and sanded and am waiting for some mahogany to plug the bridge holes with. Then it gets that beautiful transparent brown the was offered by Gibson in the late 60s.

I'm also trying to find a medium scale neck for it but that's turning into quite a job.

Sounds interesting, post some pics when you can.  There never was a medium scale neck made for EB-0s and 3s, Epi or Gibson models.  You'd have to have a custom neck made or use a 34" bolt-on Epi EB-3 neck.  

I might have an Epi EB-3 34" scale neck laying around my shop if you're interested.  Now, I probably shouldn't say this, but you could convert it to 32" scale by planing the fretboard down and gluing a new 32" one on top.  I've done similar things like that myself!
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: dc10bass on October 14, 2011, 07:12:48 AM
There never was a medium scale neck made for EB-0s and 3s, Epi or Gibson models.  You'd have to have a custom neck made or use a 34" bolt-on Epi EB-3 neck.

I was thinking he wanted a short scale neck...
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: drbassman on October 14, 2011, 07:25:59 AM
I was thinking he wanted a short scale neck...

He used the term "medium scale" so I interpreted it as 32".
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: Greg_M on October 14, 2011, 08:27:39 AM
Yes 32"

I had several EB-0s and a couple EB-3s back in the 60s and always liked them (obviously) but I guess I thought the strings to "floppy" if you know what I mean. I have a Fender Jazz now and had several of them, again in the 60s, but I have short fingers, so 34" scale is a bit of a reach although doable. I thought I would give medium scale a try. Seems like a good compromise.

Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: sniper on October 14, 2011, 11:17:25 AM
this guy makes neck blanks and could probably make a blank for a 32" scale bass. Dr Bassman and i have both talked to him before about doing this and i think Bill has bought a blank from him. he can do one off custom measurements like for a bass scale vs a guitar sized scale blank. using the fret calculator on the stew-mac site one can figure out how long the board surface has to be on a blank for as many frets as one would want.

here is one of his auctions: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hond-Mahog-Model-59-Dbl-Cutaway-Neck-Call-Your-Own-/230646544786?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item35b39af992

one thing to watch for in mounting a neck if you have a limited reach as i do (frigging shoulder!!!) is to set your neck into the body and move the bridge as far as you can towards the end of the body as Gibson did when they made a 34" scale on the SG type bodies.

i didn't give Bill that option when i sent a used bolt on neck for my Colby bass and i regret it as it turned out to be as long as a 34" 7ender type. it is a wicked cool bass but the reach is a bit long for me even though it is a 32" scale.

Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: Greg_M on October 14, 2011, 12:14:49 PM
I'm kind of limited on how much I can pull the neck into the body. There's that big pocket for the neck pickup about 3/16" from the end of the existing pocket now.

Maybe I should start my own thread instead of "borrowing" this one.
Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: Pilgrim on October 14, 2011, 12:51:19 PM

I'm also trying to find a medium scale neck for it but that's turning into quite a job.

Greg, good to see you post.  Two questions:

1) Are you sure that a medium scale neck will work with the bridge placement? Changing scale length often requires moving the bridge.

2) Have you considered the balance with a medium scale neck?  I personally have sworn an oath never to own another EB-0 with a neck longer than 30" because of neck-dive caused by longer necks.

Title: Re: 1965 Gibson EB-0 to EB-3 mod - Refinish Color?
Post by: Greg_M on October 14, 2011, 01:02:32 PM
I just started a new thread so I can quit hijacking this one