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Title: Setting a neck
Post by: Barklessdog on April 29, 2008, 10:35:19 AM: I was reading on how luthiers set necks with hot hide glue.

What have you guys done?
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: Dave W on April 29, 2008, 10:55:17 AM: I've never set a neck but none of the majors have used hot hide glue probably since well before WWII.

HHG fanatics will tell you about centuries-old items with HHG joints that are still good. They conveniently overlook that only a very small percentage have lasted. HHG is rigid. When the wood moves, the joint or the wood around it can break. You need some flexibility here because the neck will move, it's under string tension and will have to be adjusted now and then. HHG does have its uses but IMHO this isn't one of them.
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: drbassman on April 29, 2008, 10:59:50 AM: I use Titebond.
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: shadowcastaz on April 29, 2008, 01:55:39 PM: Me too,wood glue.
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: drbassman on April 29, 2008, 03:30:00 PM: Speaking of setting necks, how do you do it?
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: shadowcastaz on April 29, 2008, 04:24:11 PM: Carefully
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: drbassman on April 29, 2008, 05:06:52 PM: :D Actually, I was thinking neck angle, since that's the most critical issue when setting one.
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: Barklessdog on April 30, 2008, 04:59:12 AM: I found this Les Paul Neck reset article

http://www.dbeweb.com/guitar/
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: Barklessdog on April 30, 2008, 09:50:40 AM: Anyone ever try to dye a hard maple neck?

Would it be the same as the top?
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: shadowcastaz on April 30, 2008, 10:53:37 AM: You can do it .It depends on the species diff. between the maples. Usually maple necks are rock or hard maple. Make sure you wet the wood before you dye.
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: drbassman on April 30, 2008, 12:01:17 PM: This is the best method for determining neck angle I have seen. This is a good forum too. Lots of really good, expert builders hang out there. I only go there when I need to though, because many of them are arrogant a**holes and they love to put you down while they share their knowledge. Not a friendly place many times, but great information!

http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.php?showtopic=14036&st=0&start=0
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: Barklessdog on April 30, 2008, 12:21:49 PM: Not friendly is an understatement!

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Ok, i am going to ask that no one directly answers your questions, simply because you will learn a lot more by spending a few minutes with a pencil, ruler, and some measurements on paper. The process is real simple, and thats why i started this tutorial. Everything you need is right here.
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I am officially done with this forum. You guys are the biggest bunch of condesending a-holes I've ever met. I've tried to be nice. Just wanting to understand a couple of things BEFORE I actually build a guitar. You know, before I buy parts. I can't draw anything out to scale without having the parts in front of me. But no, I'm just another idiot right?

I wonder... Is it just a certain type of personality that gravitates towards building guitars? Maybe it's the same disease that you find in guitar shops.

Anyway... I don't need the negativity. So, congradualations... I'm gone. No need to reply, I won't be reading it. You folks can go back to building yer 9 string cocobolo basses and I'll leave you alone.

By the way...

Actually I measured the angle that the Ripper had before I removed the neck. I was planning on using that angle since it has to be the same as my RD, which has a Kahler.

I had to rout the swimming pool first to be sure that angle will work. I was going to clamp things up and check the angle with the bridge on and a bass string
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: drbassman on April 30, 2008, 12:55:17 PM: Yep, PGF can be a pain which is why I don't post there any more (I sdid throw the 60 NR final pics up just to tease them!), but read everything I can when I need to. The important thing about angle is the bridge to nut measurement I think. I actually do as the PGF guy recommends, I get all of my parts, measure them and then do a life sized drawing on some long sheets of paper I have just for this purpose. Once you do that, it all really does make sense. You just need to know the heights of ALL of your components.
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: sniper on May 01, 2008, 08:38:18 PM: nice little diddy for figuring out a neck angle:

http://www.tundraman.com/jigs/NeckAngle.CFM

ps: i'm still around players
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: Barklessdog on May 02, 2008, 04:46:03 AM: Quote from: old puppy on May 01, 2008, 08:38:18 PM
nice little diddy for figuring out a neck angle:

http://www.tundraman.com/jigs/NeckAngle.CFM

ps: i'm still around players

great link Old Puppy!

Old Puppy teaching new tricks! ;D
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: drbassman on May 02, 2008, 06:48:22 AM: I've used that formula page before and it does work. Drawing it out to scale is a good lesson too.
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: chromium on May 02, 2008, 09:12:27 AM: Nice to see you again, old_puppy!
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: sniper on May 02, 2008, 12:24:55 PM: thanks for the welcome joe and uwe (pm'd). good to be back.
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: drbassman on May 02, 2008, 01:38:12 PM: Quote from: old puppy on May 02, 2008, 12:24:55 PM
thanks for the welcome joe and uwe (pm'd). good to be back.

Good to have you here too!
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: Barklessdog on May 02, 2008, 03:45:29 PM: This is turning out to be a great (this section!)
Title: Re: Setting a neck
Post by: drbassman on May 02, 2008, 05:22:38 PM: Quote from: Barklessdog on May 02, 2008, 03:45:29 PM
This is turning out to be a great (this section!)

Thanks. I had a feeling this would work out. Uwe and Dave were nice enough to carve out a little corner of the forum for us and I too think it's great fun!