The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Pekka on August 26, 2010, 05:35:41 AM
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A '63 no less.
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Nice! My image of Jimmy Bain is either using a Telecaster Bass or a Yamaha BB 3000.
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I just emailed my friend Lizzy Valentine from D'Molls who is good friends with Jimmy. Just asked if he still has the T bird. I kinda' Doubt it.
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That must be the onelisted on the Rainbow OnStage album as a "reverb Firebird" bass guitar...
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Jimmy doesn't have the bird anymore.
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That must be the onelisted on the Rainbow OnStage album as a "reverb Firebird" bass guitar...
Yes indeed. I always wondered what the heck was that and thought maybe they still listed Gruber's bass which of course was a non-reverse Thunderbird.
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Not aware that he ever played it with Rainbow, but a great info. Blackmore back then liked a pick playing sound with a bass and a lot of presence zzzing, the Bird would have been too mellow, especially with Cozy taking no prisoners in the back. After Blackers fired him (allegedly for "not being a good enough bass player" after his predecessor and intermittent successor Craig Gruber had been criticized for playing too much), he was a while with Ian Hunter's Overnight Angels before the Wild Horses. He might have played 5the Bird with Hunter, it would have been a nice nod to overend watts.
What's Bain doing now? Drug issues got him fired with Dio the rumors were. Last I heard of him was when he auditioned for the Stones after Wyman left. Heard that he got quite far actually. Had they taken him, they'd sound quite a bit edgier today. Bain is no slouch on the bass (and his playing improved greatly on those early Dio albums), but not really an R'n'B (in the old sense) groover, his playing is always a little jagged.
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I'll ask.
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he was a while with Ian Hunter's Overnight Angels before the Wild Horses.
He was also in John Cale's band and played on the great EP "Animal Justice". "Hedda Gabler" is a classic song.
The only basses I have seen him using in Rainbow were the natural Telecaster with a bridge pickup ( and with or without the monstrous pickguard) and a blond (or natural) Precision with a maple neck.
Jimmy played also with Phil Lynott in 1982 on Phil's solo band tour. With Jerome Rimson on bass, the band had three bass players! Jimmy was on keyboards 'though...
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That must be the onelisted on the Rainbow OnStage album as a "reverb Firebird" bass guitar...
Was it Bain or Bob Daisley on that record?
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Was it Bain or Bob Daisley on that record?
Bain. It was compiled from the 1976 tour.
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Too add a little confusion: I just read a quote in a Rainbow autobiography of keyboardsmith Tony Carey on Jimmy Bain: "Little Jimmy was great to have around. Great humour and a real rock'n'roller. Totally reliable on stage and he played that huge Gibson Thunderbird bass with something like 5.000 watts. I really liked him."
So that TBird might have crept on stage with Rainbow a couple of times after all, at least it left a lasting impression with Herr Carey.
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Here's little Jimmy playing keys with Philip and his Soul Band. Jimmy looks like Macca or Kasim with that moptop.:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-xMaCwwiA8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-xMaCwwiA8)
Jerome Rimson slaps on a strange looking Ric copy.
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Cool band! Never heard of that lineup.
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In a roundabout way this fits here though it is the later line-up with David Stone and Bob Daisley - Ritchie had just received his first hair transplant too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLN8lHBBKck&feature=player_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biE0zdEKn5A&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8HiZepRWo&feature=player_embedded
Could have also gone with the Dio thread.
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Cool band! Never heard of that lineup.
Yes, it was only during the late '82 I believe. Lynott, Rimson, Darren Wharton, Gus Isadore, Jimmy Bain & Mark Nauseef.
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Too add a little confusion: I just read a quote in a Rainbow autobiography of keyboardsmith Tony Carey on Jimmy Bain: "Little Jimmy was great to have around. Great humour and a real rock'n'roller. Totally reliable on stage and he played that huge Gibson Thunderbird bass with something like 5.000 watts. I really liked him."
So that TBird might have crept on stage with Rainbow a couple of times after all, at least it left a lasting impression with Herr Carey.
It did. This is from the '75 pre-"Rising" gigs:
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In case the pic doesn't show: http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/148302027-22nd-november-bass-player-jimmy-bain-from-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QZCYRWTl0inkhhytC1%2ba%2bAmvs76UbMzhIJ%2fh2bAhLrT%2f8up7sDNlL50qQfPX6tXOAw%3d%3d (http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/148302027-22nd-november-bass-player-jimmy-bain-from-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QZCYRWTl0inkhhytC1%2ba%2bAmvs76UbMzhIJ%2fh2bAhLrT%2f8up7sDNlL50qQfPX6tXOAw%3d%3d)
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Another, a bit later 'cause he has cut his hair. :) Actually it's from a gig eight days earlier...
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Links no work!
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In a roundabout way this fits here though it is the later line-up with David Stone and Bob Daisley - Ritchie had just received his first hair transplant too:
Transplant? Way too thick to be a transplant. Looks more like a selection from the Rug of the Month Club.
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Links no work!
Damn! And the pics no show! Gettyimages no like direct link.
"Jimmy Bain 1975" to google pic search, like this:
https://www.google.fi/search?q=jimmy+bain+1975&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi589bK5ajJAhVLhiwKHdcRCiwQ_AUIBygB&biw=1366&bih=657 (https://www.google.fi/search?q=jimmy+bain+1975&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi589bK5ajJAhVLhiwKHdcRCiwQ_AUIBygB&biw=1366&bih=657)
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Nice, when I saw him in 1976 he played that Telecaster bass though - even back then I would have remembered something as outlandish looking as a TBird. With Powell's bass drums pounding away, the TBird would have given issues cutting through. The Telecaster sounded nasty, but got itself heard.
Some talentless and heavy-handed Aussie band was the opening act back then. I believe they never amounted to much.
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They used to play the pubs in London... really odd bunch... singer often came on in a kilt playing the bagpipes... and as for the guitarist and those shorts... :o
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Hopeless. Drummer was bad company too.
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Nice, when I saw him in 1976 he played that Telecaster bass though - even back then I would have remembered something as outlandish looking as a TBird. With Powell's bass drums pounding away, the TBird would have given issues cutting through. The Telecaster sounded nasty, but got itself heard.
Was it one of those gigs that got released later on?
The bass sound on "On Stage" is very good, not nasty at all. The two pickup Telecaster I presume.
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Some talentless and heavy-handed Aussie band was the opening act back then. I believe they never amounted to much.
(http://philippe.andrieu.free.fr/concerts/19761014/ACD012.jpg)
By then that Scott chap would have been the singer. I had encountered that band a few years earlier with a different singer to start with. We were initially bemused but largely unimpressed, far preferring a heavy little outfit called Buffalo that had been around for a while and an emerging one called Radio Birdman that really blew us away. Neither, of course, had the success we thought they should have, but key people from those bands continue. At about the time you refer there were two great Melbourne bands emerging, Jo Jo Zep and the Falcons and The Sports. Flowers (later Icehouse) were starting to do the inner city in Sydney. Another powerhouse band was distilling at about that time, Cold Chisel. It was a great time to be band watching in Pubs around Sydney and there was plenty of work for our little outfit!
Gratuitous display of Radio Birdman logo.
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Nice logo.I saw radio birdman in london ,I think in 2005.they absolutely rocked of course.
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Was it one of those gigs that got released later on?
The bass sound on "On Stage" is very good, not nasty at all. The two pickup Telecaster I presume.
I really can't say anymore! The Frankfurt gig was not among that trilogy of gigs that got released later on, but it was the same tour. I'm not much of an On Stage fan, it came too early in the bands career (and featured recordings too late in the tour where Cozy Powell later on moaned "my playing was already suffering because I was too knackered"), featured almost nothing off Rising, got released when that particular line up was already history and the production is extremely flat. Strange that Martin Birch who did such great work with Purple, floundered on almost all Rainbow albums he produced: the debut is murky (compare Stormbringer or Come Taste the Band to it, both have aged much better), Rainbow Rising has hardly any bass or keyboards in the end mix, especially the European one (it sounds like Cozy and Ritchie rehearsing with Dio singing to it, the demos sound much better and audibly feature the whole band), even the orchestral parts are way too much in the background, On Stage is flat (compare Made in Europe to it which practically jumps out of the speakers at you, even Last Concert in Japan SOUNDS better, never mind Bolin's flawed performance on it), only Long Live Rock'n'Roll is up to Martin's producton standard. I always wondered whether Blackmore kept Martin Birch on a tighter budget or intervened too much for the production outcomes being so poor.