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Gear Discussion Forums => Other Bass Brands => Topic started by: Iome on January 24, 2010, 02:10:54 PM
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I'm starting a new topic on this to make it shorter than the old one.
I guess you have seen the new birds from Bach in the Bachbird topic http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=434.1350 (http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=434.1350)
Should we give it a try, listing who's really interested?
I'm in for one.
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It sounds like they might already be developing one. I think it was Rob that mentioned it in the other thread. That'll be cool if they do. All you lefties will have a new toy!
Ah, here it is:
BaCH told me they're working on a lefty batch.
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I've seen that now, damn i'm happy.
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Roman has answered me, he ask me to tell asap what color we prefer so please let me know who's in.
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I just need to know one thing. Is the bridge mounted straight or at an angle?
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??? i think you better ask in the other Bachbird topic....
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(http://www.bachmusik.com/system/media/products/THHB%20CELEK.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/Thunderbirds/non%20Gibson%20Thunderbirds/THHBCELEKleft.jpg)
Looks like the bridge is not at an angle. I doubt they'd change that for the lefty (like that little photoshop there).
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IF the bridge is NOT angled, I'm in.
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The bridges are not angled in the righthanded series. It is very likely the lefties will be the same.
The bridge is wider than the original Gibson bridge. It allows for enough saddle travel to set proper intonation.
(THANX TO SCOTT FROM WHOM THEY STOLE THAT IDEA)
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I'm giving up, we are far from being 20 lefties interested and those who may be in wants to know what the price of the first run will be and Roman ain't talling me after several mails and he would also like to know what colors we want by this week, never gonna make it.... :-\
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I'm giving up, we are far from being 20 lefties interested and those who may be in wants to know what the price of the first run will be and Roman ain't talling me after several mails and he would also like to know what colors we want by this week, never gonna make it.... :-\
I know there's at least two guys in he Netherlands who want one. They contacted you months ago...
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I'm in for a lefty with righty controls and would imagine some other people might be too. Or even no controls.
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I'm in for a lefty with righty controls and would imagine some other people might be too. Or even no controls.
How you would call that? A non-non-reverse?
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Like I said on the other board, I'm in.
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Ah, I see, the Greek is on leave from his new missus! How was the honeymoon?
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Paris was freezing, but very nice overall. French people aren't so bad after all.
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So, Roman told me that the price for the first run fo birds where almost no profit for Bach, but, if we reach the number, we can get a "very similar price" on the first run of lefties, that doesn't sound too bad to me.
Lets see, who's in:
me +1 -- Trans. Red
Bashappi +1 -- Trans Red -- 2 P.U.
Leftybass +1 -- White --
Others +1 -- Light Blue -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- HoneyBurst -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Trans. Red -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Honeyburst -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- White -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Trans Red -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Light Blue -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Honeyburst -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Trans. Red -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Trans. Red -- 2 P.U.
OK LADS, we're almost there, who wants 7 lefty Bachbirds? ;D
I'm in for a lefty with righty controls and would imagine some other people might be too. Or even no controls.
I'll ask for that Uwe, With no control do you mean even without the cavity?
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All I need is an input plug in the right place - i.e. the other side to where it would be for you poor lefties. I'm willing to pay extra for a vol control (never use tone) if that is technically possible, but it's not mandatory. Just plug in/plug out would be sufficient.
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C'mon, we're halfway there
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Ok, we might have another 4 buyers coming in from a dutch forum, i'll start asking for the reversed non reversed for the righties.
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So, Roman told me that the price for the first run fo birds where almost no profit for Bach, but, if we reach the number, we can get a "very similar price" on the first run of lefties, that doesn't sound too bad to me.
Lets see, who's in:
me +1 -- Trans. Red
Bashappi +1 -- Trans Red -- 2 P.U.
Leftybass +1 -- White --
Andrew +1 -- HoneyBurst -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Trans. Red -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Honeyburst -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- White -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Trans Red -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Sonic Blue -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Honeyburst -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Trans. Red -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Trans. Red -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Trans. Red -- 2 P.U.
Others +1 -- Trans. Red -- 2 P.U. / Sonic Blue -- 1 P.U.
Others +1 -- Trans. Red -- 2 P.U.
Rhythm N. Bliss +1 -- Trans. Red -- 2 P.U.
We need another 2 buyers.....
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I'll have a Trans Red one too! 2 P.U.
...unless they can do a checkerboard paint job. heh
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Hey Rhythm, i was afraid you didnt want one.
Roman told me they should cost 198€ or 170€ + VAT for those interested in that, I'm still waiting for a shipping price. I'll be back with more news.
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I don't NEED it, but I'm in to help out my fellow leftys. ;D
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I believe I'm the fourth "others+1" on your list. :mrgreen:
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Sorry mate, i don't know who's on both forums and i don't want to violate your peoples privacy ;D
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Roman told me they should cost 198€ or 170€ + VAT for those interested in that, I'm still waiting for a shipping price. I'll be back with more news.
198 euros is about $270 US dollars, right? Verrry Coooool
Has anyone tried recruiting leftys to buy some from the BADASS BASSPLAYERS site?
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I don't NEED it, but I'm in to help out my fellow leftys. ;D
R N B, You da' man! :D
We are sooo close, I've got a really good feeling about this!
Did this get mentioned on the Lefty Club thread on Talkbass?
I'll mention it over there and at the Fender Discussion Forum on the Lefty forum if you're okay with that Iome.
I mean, if we end up with more than 20 orders that would be okay..........right? :D
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Your damn right mate. It would be great if you could get more people into this project, i'm afraid more people will back out before the end, so if we are more than 20 we'll be covered. We are now 19....
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Consider it done!
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Sorry mate, i don't know who's on both forums and i don't want to violate your peoples privacy ;D
No problem. :)
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I'll mention it over there and at the Fender Discussion Forum on the Lefty forum
Be careful what you post on the Fender Forum, they aren't receptive to cross-board content.
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Be careful what you post on the Fender Forum, they aren't receptive to cross-board content.
Harrumph. Harrumph, harrumph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN99jshaQbY
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Be careful what you post on the Fender Forum, they aren't receptive to cross-board content.
Yep, but I was very careful about that and the Moderator was good with it.
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Are we there yet? :mrgreen:
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We have now reachd 20 basses,i'll contact Roman monday...again
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Cooooooooooooool 8)
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Hang on lads, Roman told me they are waiting for some parts and then we will have some more info and can finally get the project started.
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Congratulations guys.
Looks like the lefty BaCHbirds are finally going to happen.
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Tap, tap, tap....
:mrgreen:
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My money just came thru! Yay
Let's get these ordered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8)
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Congrats on the progress guys! You'll love them!
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Yeah right, hurra!! I've been mailing Roman several times, last response (more than a month ago) was that i should be patient while they where waiting for materials for the bass.....i hope mahogany grows fast....
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I'm bowing out on this. Sorry guys. I'm sure you'll find someone else to get the quota.
Two reasons:
The price going up & the one that got broken in shipping without good packaging!!
Peace! out
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Understandable.
Without a firm committment and pricing from BaCH this project is going to start falling apart.
I'm afraid that I'm going to have to bow out soon if no real info and ETA is forth-coming.
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Something like 75 of these have been shipped to Europe and the US and only one has been damaged in shipping. Unfortunate, but that can happen with anything.
OTOH you don't need to have a reason to bow out. The project has taken a long time, sometimes you have to change your commitments.
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The price going up
How much has the price gone up by? Why did the price increase?
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Yeah that was the same question that popped up in my head when I saw Terr mentioning that. Who said the price has been raised?
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Not sure what he means. I think the price they were quoted may be higher than the first run, but that's no surprise. AFAIK there haven't been any more increases.
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The latest batch of righties are at a higher price point, but they are still an incredible deal in my book. For what you get (if you're a fan of that idiosyncratic model), they're still priced very fairly. I know some people may not want to wait, but I just want to throw it out there that the first run of righties took around two years to come to fruition and I don't know of anyone who was disappointed by what they got.
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I think it is the lack of information flow that is causing the jitters. Personally I have no problem with a long lead time, but I have to budget my bass purchases fairly carefully, as I suspect most people do. Therefore knowing exactly how much it's going to cost and when payment is going to be due is important.
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Well, as i said Roman told me the price would be 198€, Vat included, i think it's a very good price.
The problem is that i haven't got a reply for 2 month. I don't know what to say, maybe Rob could ask Roman to give me some info. At least he could just tell me he doesn't want to make the basses, at least it would be an answer..... :-\
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It has been common for Roman to go long stretches without contact, whether it was with Rob or those of us that bought directly from him when the first couple batches of birds were sold. I think we surmised that Bach Czech was a smaller outfit than we might have initially thought and our Thunderbirds were only one of many things he had on his plate. I doubt that has changed.
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I think we figured that Roman and his business partner seem to be the whole company. BaCH may very well be only a two-man shop.
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Well, as i said Roman told me the price would be 198€, Vat included
How much is that in US dollars?
How much was one in the first batch?
How much was one in the recent batch?
How much will it cost to upgrade pickups & so forth to get a Gibson quality bass?
Why am I even asking? I'm still out no matter what the answers are.
I have enuf basses. Betcha never heard anyone say that before. :D
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Iome, you have been working hard to make this happen and I appreciate that. Don't worry about me because I'm still in on the deal.
Keep on truckin' brother! :D
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News from Bach, they can start deliver the basses in august, still someone interested?
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I'm still in, I answered on LeftyBassist
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Lefty BacHbirds are go!
(http://www.bachmusik.com/ew-core/watermark.php?photo=th-lh-e-jpg.)
(http://www.bachmusik.com/ew-core/watermark.php?photo=th-lhe-jpg.)
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Yes, only issue is that everybody has got the same mail from Roman when asking for a bass:
thank You for Your mail .
The project has been drawn the most easy way orginally – TH-1 left hand in one color i.e. transparent red.
TH-1 has only one PU . Unfortunately We have no free PU We could put it on the bass.
Can You accept it ?
Tks for Your reply .
Roman
BaCH Music , Czech
There's only one buyer who wanted a one PU version....it's been a great dissapointment for all, i'm sorry for that.
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Very BaCH.
That is exactly the sort of frustration that I've been getting from dealing with them.
They don't stick to what was agreed upon.
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Very BaCH.
That is exactly the sort of frustration that I've been getting from dealing with them.
They don't stick to what was agreed upon.
I've been in similar situations with furniture factories. My business wasn't deemed important enough to get things done the way I wanted. Very frustrating indeed.
I can also see it from their point of view. They feel that their way has been good enough for this long, why change? If their factory is running at capacity it's hard to argue with that from a business angle. In similar situations my mantra was, "It's commerce, not Art."
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Most of the frustration is the part that it wouldn't have cost them one single penny more to do it right.
I provided them with all the drawings, measurements, pics etc.
For example the pickguard. I gave them a drawing. All they had to do is put the file in their CNC machine and cut them out.
Now they've designed their own pickguard. Somebody spent unnecessary time on that.
It would've been cheaper to use mine. With better result!
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I know EXACTLY what you're talking about! Making ugly when beauty costs the same or less. Arrgh >:(
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Iome you have absolutely nothing to apologize for. You have worked hard for a long time to make this happen for us and it is BaCH that let us down, not you.
You sir, have my utmost appreciation an respect for your efforts on behalf of the lefty bass community.
Cheers!