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Title: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 01, 2008, 07:32:30 AM
Hey guys, I got this from Roy at RS Guitars.  He was gonna restore it but decided not to.  I bought it and I'm gonna keep it natural.  I've always wanted a natural EB-2!  It's got ALL of the hardware except one string ferrule.  Very cool............

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/drbassman/66%20EB-2/53c9_3.jpg)
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Rhythm N. Bliss on March 01, 2008, 07:57:51 AM
Cool score, doc~ Congrats!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: godofthunder on March 01, 2008, 09:17:45 AM
Very cool !
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: TBird1958 on March 01, 2008, 09:22:54 AM

 We'll want pix you know.......
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Chris P. on March 01, 2008, 09:24:26 AM
Nice! yeah, make pics of the restauration project!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 01, 2008, 10:17:55 AM
Will do the pics.  I always try to keep things documented!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: eb2 on March 01, 2008, 11:18:34 AM
Be very careful before you decide to go au naturale!  If the dye coat has leached into the grain, it is freaking bear to get out.  And my experience is that it bleeds back out when you put on a sealer.  I had to do several bleach washes on mine to get out old stain, and ran into problems with that as the old ES plys tend to bubble up if they get too moist.  BEWARE.

Cherry is delightful too.

So is black!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: doombass on March 01, 2008, 11:20:24 AM
Yes that's a nice project. Especially with next to every bit and piece included. I saw it on Ebay. Do you have any ideas yet of what to do about the sanded headstock face?
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Dave W on March 01, 2008, 12:26:23 PM
Nice. I'll be looking forward to another pictorial.

You sure don't waste any time. Back from vacations and you're ready to go to work.  ;)
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: EvilLordJuju on March 01, 2008, 10:33:22 PM
Cool, I'll also look forward to seeing this one evolve....

Can I ask a favour? Could you post a couple decent pictures of the wiring loom? I've got an EB2 that worked fine - but I took the loom out to clean the pots, and now I think it may have been messed with a little. Would just like to compare connections.

Thanks

Jules

Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: dminer on March 01, 2008, 11:55:53 PM
Great looking bass and I noticed that on ebay as well..... my first thought when I saw it was to finish it natural with checkered binding? nice catch!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 02, 2008, 05:48:02 AM
Be very careful before you decide to go au naturale!  If the dye coat has leached into the grain, it is freaking bear to get out.  And my experience is that it bleeds back out when you put on a sealer.  I had to do several bleach washes on mine to get out old stain, and ran into problems with that as the old ES plys tend to bubble up if they get too moist.  BEWARE.

Cherry is delightful too.

So is black!

Now that's a good thought I hadn't considered.  I've never had any trouble bleaching a bass but I see your point about the leaching and the moisture.  My other thought was doing a very light amber tint to cover the surface a little and make it looked aged.  We'll see whne we get her in!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 02, 2008, 05:49:00 AM
Cool, I'll also look forward to seeing this one evolve....

Can I ask a favour? Could you post a couple decent pictures of the wiring loom? I've got an EB2 that worked fine - but I took the loom out to clean the pots, and now I think it may have been messed with a little. Would just like to compare connections.

Thanks

Jules



I'd be happy to Jules.  Will do so when it arrives.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 02, 2008, 05:50:00 AM
Yes that's a nice project. Especially with next to every bit and piece included. I saw it on Ebay. Do you have any ideas yet of what to do about the sanded headstock face?

The inlays are in fine shpe, so I'm just gonna paint it black as usual.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 02, 2008, 06:12:10 AM
Nice. I'll be looking forward to another pictorial.

You sure don't waste any time. Back from vacations and you're ready to go to work.  ;)

Hey, everyone needs an escape from their "real" job!  Beside, when you typically get a couple hundred inches of snow every year like we do, indoor activities are a necessity.  At least this beats stamp collecting all to heck! :D
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Dave W on March 02, 2008, 09:33:31 AM
The light amber tint sounds like a possible solution if you have a color bleed problem. It would look good regardless.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 02, 2008, 08:37:37 PM
yeah, I'll try a little bleach and see how that works.  I've already got a cherry 68, so I probably won't go that route.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 06, 2008, 08:37:24 PM
OK guys, this is what I'm thinking for my 66 EB-2.......

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/drbassman/66%20EB-2/66gibsonEB-2white.jpg)
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: chromium on March 06, 2008, 09:47:55 PM
 :o  That's stunning!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Nocturnal on March 06, 2008, 10:07:58 PM
That would be a great choice IMO.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: eb2 on March 06, 2008, 11:24:37 PM
I was hoping you would take a shine to that.  Very cool looking.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 07, 2008, 05:35:21 AM
Yep, I've developed this bad GAS for white/cream basses lately and this is probably the route I'm going to go with this one since it's totally disassembled and stripped for the most part.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: ramone57 on March 07, 2008, 08:11:39 AM
I'm not usually big on white, but that looks fantastic.  nice choice!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Dave W on March 07, 2008, 09:45:09 AM
That would certainly look good. I take it you've dropped the idea of a natural finish.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Barklessdog on March 07, 2008, 11:06:31 AM
I love the white EB-2 look
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 07, 2008, 11:17:41 AM
That would certainly look good. I take it you've dropped the idea of a natural finish.

Yep, the natural finish has become the second choice.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 29, 2008, 12:37:22 PM
Got the black binding on today.  Will trim it up tomorrow and finish sanding for paint!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Dave W on March 29, 2008, 01:05:09 PM
Any in-progress pics would be great, even if it's just a close-up of the binding.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 30, 2008, 03:55:43 AM
Will do.  Gotta get all of those rubber bands off first!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Chris P. on March 30, 2008, 05:23:11 AM
Wow!

Keef Richards played a white 335 a lot lately, but he gave it away. See this new Martin Scorcese Stones movie.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 30, 2008, 11:52:26 AM
Here she is, all bound up!  Got some scraping & sanding to do, then we'll pick out some paint as soon as the weather breaks, probably July sometime (just kidding!).   ;)  I'm gonna look for a white with a very slight touch of yellow for a faint aged look.  should be fun!

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/drbassman/66%20EB-2/100_1355.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/drbassman/66%20EB-2/100_1356.jpg)
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Chris P. on March 30, 2008, 01:31:05 PM
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Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 30, 2008, 02:35:41 PM
Very nice EB-2 there Chris.  I've got an all original 1968 heritage cherry already, so I'm only looking for basket cases to fool around with.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: godofthunder on March 30, 2008, 02:59:08 PM
As always beautiful work Bill !
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 30, 2008, 08:03:08 PM
thanks, she's coming along.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Bass VI on March 30, 2008, 09:13:19 PM
Dr.
 Love the choice of color, remember the rules and watch out for the red dye leaching into your color coats, on the other hand Mark would probably really like a pink burst EB-2 ;D

 Seriously, it will look awsome with black binding. Do you still need a ferrule and what size do these take? I think I might have some random Klusons around.

S.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: TBird1958 on March 30, 2008, 10:40:55 PM

 Mmmmm........PINK Eb2 I could go for that!

 Seriously tho, I'm amazed at the high level of craftsmanship I see you guys (Scott BassVI, Bill and Scott GoT) put out there. Really beautiful work, I sincerly admire your collective talents.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: rockinrayduke on March 31, 2008, 03:17:19 AM
Same here. I can barely install straplocks without screwing something up, so I'm very impressed with the work you guys put into these basses.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: uwe on March 31, 2008, 03:52:40 AM
A bondage bass. Dark secrets of a college scholar ...

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/drbassman/66%20EB-2/100_1355.jpg)
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 31, 2008, 04:23:39 AM
Thanks for all of the compliments guys.  It's really just a lot of nerve and lack of fear!  I'll try just about anything at this stage.  I love learning new things and the more I can teach myself, the more I like it.  I have a huge support group in the restoration/refinishing forum and I've been going to school there for a couple years now.  When I retire in a few years, I only plan on playing and building basses for the most part!  It's a good plan.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 31, 2008, 04:25:40 AM
It's funny you said that Uwe, as I was thinking it as I wrapped one after another, after another, after another...................................

A bondage bass. Dark secrets of a college scholar ...

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/drbassman/66%20EB-2/100_1355.jpg)
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 31, 2008, 04:52:18 AM
Uwe, I forgot to mention that I did just buy a 60's tuner and ferrule off eBay the other day.  If it doesn't work, I might ask you to check your parts drawer for me.

As for a pink EB-2, I think it could look good, worn by the right person.  Although I can't imagine HIM with without a TB strapped on!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: shadowcastaz on March 31, 2008, 08:07:03 AM
That is going to look very fine with the black binding. Did you decide on a color (white shade)or a tinted top coat. for a second I thought I would do my Starfire restore white but it snowed again and I said  enough.. Dr. did you look at the pic I sent of the switch? Mike
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on March 31, 2008, 10:38:42 AM
That is going to look very fine with the black binding. Did you decide on a color (white shade)or a tinted top coat. for a second I thought I would do my Starfire restore white but it snowed again and I said  enough.. Dr. did you look at the pic I sent of the switch? Mike

Yep, it's gonna be white with a hint of yellow for a very slight aged look.  I'm not an Oly White fan and vintage cream is too yellow for the most part.  With a good acrylic primer and top coats, none of the few little red tinted spots will bleed through.

I forgot to get back to you on the switch.  I do that now.  Sorry I forgot but I hang out here mostly these days.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: shadowcastaz on March 31, 2008, 01:15:39 PM
I dont blame you . its got the best of all worlds.M
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: eb2 on April 22, 2008, 10:23:57 AM
What are you using as a primer? Bins?  That will whack bleed through.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on April 22, 2008, 10:33:06 AM
What are you using as a primer? Bins?  That will whack bleed through.

I'm using auto body acrylic lacquer.  The S&S is like armor.  Nothing will get through it and it fills sanding scratches from 320 and higher!  Should work well for this project.  I should have it ready for paint in about 2 weeks.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: eb2 on April 22, 2008, 09:58:35 PM
I used hot rod primer on a p-bass once, and actually liked working with it.  It was very thick and wet sanded out very easily, almost chalky to cut through, and the end result was very smooth.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Barklessdog on April 23, 2008, 05:09:29 AM
I was told by a vintage guitar guy once that never use auto primer or bondo on guitars. They are wood not metal.

I dont think it matters, but refinishers & builder stick to wood products except paint.


Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: eb2 on April 23, 2008, 08:06:06 AM
I had heard that as well, but I have run into enough people at the reranch who have used hot rod primer to offer it up.  And I had no problem with it at all.  Bondo is a problem as it does not react to humidity the same as wood, and will pop and crack.  Spot putty does do a good job for patching dings and nicks though. 
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Dave W on April 23, 2008, 09:05:54 AM
I wouldn't use Bondo for the reason eb2 mentioned, but there's no reason not to use acrylic lacquer or primer.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on April 23, 2008, 02:10:44 PM
I use epoxy putty for small patching jobs on basses cuz it dries hard as a rock and is very stable when dry.  Also, it's made for use with wood.  I tried bondo once, just for grins, on a solid body and I didn't like the result at all.

As for auto paint, it's no different than what Fender has done for decades and the result can be beautiful!
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: Dave W on April 23, 2008, 06:28:20 PM
Exactly. For example (IIRC), Lake Placid Blue is an acrylic lacquer originally used on 1958 Cadillacs. All of the Fender metallic custom colors were acrylic auto lacquers, and all of the original Gibson Firebird colors (metallic and non-metallic) were too.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: shadowcastaz on April 24, 2008, 07:33:55 AM
I used an Isuzu Inca blue a 'la spray can from a touch up auto body site.layed out and dried nice. I was nit sure what to use for a top coat though. any thoughts?
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on April 24, 2008, 08:12:21 AM
My auto shop has a clear coat that matches/is compatible with their auto paints.  So, I'm using that.  Did you check into clear for your stuff?
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: shadowcastaz on April 24, 2008, 08:42:40 AM
No ,But i will.
Title: Re: New victim! 66 EB-2
Post by: drbassman on April 24, 2008, 09:27:42 AM
No ,But i will.

That's a good idea as nitro and some other acrylics may not be compatible with your inca base coat.