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Gear Discussion Forums => Fender Basses => Topic started by: Barklessdog on May 15, 2009, 04:32:23 AM

Title: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Barklessdog on May 15, 2009, 04:32:23 AM
From soft Machine- Roy Babbington- kind of a lame solo, but shows what the bass can sound like - its 4 min + you will never get back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njVcutKBPTo&feature=related
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: leftybass on May 15, 2009, 06:31:31 AM
I tried, I really did, got about 52 seconds in and had to bail.  :bored:
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Dave W on May 15, 2009, 09:09:25 AM
I tried, I really did, got about 52 seconds in and had to bail.  :bored:

You missed the really bad parts.

By the end his bandmates were comatose.
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: hieronymous on May 15, 2009, 10:11:37 AM
I actually like that video - but it is kind of funny when the camera man focuses on the knobs of one of the synths - if synth knobs are more interesting to the cameraman than what the soloist is playing then you know the solo is boring! (As if you didn't know that already...)
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Barklessdog on May 15, 2009, 10:52:29 AM
Once again proves how awful bass solos can be.
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: chromium on May 15, 2009, 02:55:24 PM
it is kind of funny when the camera man focuses on the knobs of one of the synths - if synth knobs are more interesting to the cameraman than what the soloist is playing then you know the solo is boring! (As if you didn't know that already...)

Well synth knobs are kinda sexy...  :P  ;D  (http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/smilies/icon_party.gif)

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/synth/modular/bode-2.jpg)


</removes rick wakeman cape>
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Pilgrim on May 15, 2009, 03:58:01 PM
Once again proves how awful bass solos can be.

Just to save us all time, here's the heavily edited requisite bass solo joke:

Man visits jungle...hears constant drums in distance...
[snip]
No Bwana, if drums stop...it's time for bass solo!

Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Dave W on May 15, 2009, 04:19:02 PM
My great-grandfather used to tell that one all the time.  :P

Be sure to try the veal and don't forget to tip the bartenders.  ;D
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Pilgrim on May 15, 2009, 04:26:39 PM
My great-grandfather used to tell that one all the time.  :P

That's why I knew the edited version would serve.

Don't get me started on the guys at the joke writer's convention who yelled out numbers....
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Lightyear on May 16, 2009, 09:37:15 AM
GAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:(

I made it to 1:10 - you warned me that I would lose the time but not about mental scarring! ;D
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: bobyoung on May 16, 2009, 10:16:40 AM
I'm not impressed with the sound of that instrument (hesitate to call it a bass), but he's a very light player and I'm not impressed with light player's sounds usually anyway. Sounds like he has "strings too close together" syndrome as he's plucking. I thought his note choice was pretty good but when he turned on that fuzz box and other krap it sounded like me as a teenager trying to do my best Hendrix impersonation on a bass: not good. I guess there's a reason they never sold. I remember 4 or 5 of them hanging in a row in Fitchburg Music when I bought my first P bass in 1971.
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Highlander on May 16, 2009, 03:48:20 PM
Now that was................................................................................................... the worst bass solo in the world, ever.
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Blazer on May 16, 2009, 04:15:03 PM
Now that was................................................................................................... the worst bass solo in the world, ever.

Nope, far from it.


THIS is the worst bass solo in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_u35sHICjE
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Barklessdog on May 16, 2009, 04:17:39 PM
Where is the Nikki Six solo?
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Freuds_Cat on May 16, 2009, 05:15:17 PM
Dont get me started on Michael Anthony again :sad:

Mind you the fender VI bass solo was pretty embarrassing to listen to. Whats with all the bad bends and bum notes?

Made it to 1.46
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Highlander on May 16, 2009, 06:25:34 PM
I can proudly say I got right through to the end, effects an' all...  ;D

If you are gonna offer a revue you should be willing to do the work... ALL OF YOU - GO BACK AND LISTEN AT ONCE...!

Gotta admit that Geezer's solos were down-right ropy too, back in the day...
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: exiledarchangel on May 17, 2009, 02:05:05 AM
Even if I really like Soft Machine, this solo was the chance to leave the computer to get a beer. And drink it outside my room, too.
I guess if I was stoned this could sound a bit better to my ears, but I don't even smoke, so...
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: bobyoung on May 17, 2009, 10:29:45 AM
I can proudly say I got right through to the end, effects an' all...  ;D

If you are gonna offer a revue you should be willing to do the work... ALL OF YOU - GO BACK AND LISTEN AT ONCE...!

Gotta admit that Geezer's solos were down-right ropy too, back in the day...

I got to the end too, all in all the guy's not a bad bass player, just has a lousy bend and plays too light and needs a real bass and needs to dump the effects. ;D
Now if you're going to use overdrive at least be able to play like Tim Bogart.
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: godofthunder on May 17, 2009, 01:11:03 PM
Nope, far from it.


THIS is the worst bass solo in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_u35sHICjE
LMFAO I have to agree !
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: hieronymous on May 17, 2009, 01:29:19 PM
I personally think that, as an artist, he has the right to play whatever bass he wants, use whatever effects he wants, and play whatever notes he wants. I actually think the bass looks and sounds great. How many people were using fuzz through a filter or octavers back then? Sure it's not the greatest solo ever, but within the context of the concert it was probably cool...
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Dave W on May 17, 2009, 03:24:30 PM
Of course he does. I think the bass looks fine and sounds just like a Bass VI is supposed to sound. I just thought the song was a real snoozer.
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Freuds_Cat on May 17, 2009, 11:01:31 PM
For those of you who really want to be able to recreate the intensity of that solo yourselves there is a '63 Bass VI available on ebay.oz for the bargain basement price of only US$7,430

(http://i20.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/46/05/7382_3.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280344387156&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280344387156&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting)

Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Barklessdog on May 18, 2009, 05:03:41 AM
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personally think that, as an artist, he has the right to play whatever bass he wants, use whatever effects he wants, and play whatever notes he wants. I actually think the bass looks and sounds great. How many people were using fuzz through a filter or octavers back then? Sure it's not the greatest solo ever, but within the context of the concert it was probably cool...

I agree, the only reason I posted it was I have never seen a clip of what a Fender VI sounds like by itself. I really did feel sorry for him though. He was obviously the weakest player, much like Rick Laird in Mahivishnu. Can you personally imagine playing a solo like that with Allen Holdsworth in your band? He's got a lot of balls to play something that mediocre with the caliber of musicians Soft Machine had.

As far as using pedals, I dont see anything wrong with it when done well, such as Jack Bruce did-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkVVtB2vLBo

Larry Graham seemed to some great work with petals as well.


Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: ilan on May 18, 2009, 10:28:39 AM
I ran away when the fuzz part started, at about 1:45. Until then, I quite liked the sound. Very "organic". The VI that I used to own (a MIJ reissue) didn't sound like that, not with the OEM roundwounds or a custom LaBella flatwound set. So after the novelty wore off and the surf band split, I sold it.

BTW, you do know that the guy in the Wishbass demo clip is Steve Wishnevsky himself, right?
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Barklessdog on May 18, 2009, 10:53:29 AM
I didn't know that!

Fitting I guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYGmX85sB4c
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: bobyoung on May 19, 2009, 04:48:08 AM
Of course he does. I think the bass looks fine and sounds just like a Bass VI is supposed to sound. I just thought the song was a real snoozer.

Some years ago a guy got up at a country jamboree and played a Fender VI like it was a guitar, played chords on it, said it had the original strings on it, was kind of funny actually.
OTOH, I remember seeing a local band in 1969, "The John Does" play at a local high school, the bass player had a Fender V playing through a Kustom with 3 15" speakers in it stacked and it sounded great. The player did the Take me For a Little While Solo from The Vanilla Fudge, which illustrates my point that you have to do is to be able to play like Tim Bogart and these wierd basses sound great ;)
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: bobyoung on May 19, 2009, 04:49:53 AM
Nope, far from it.


THIS is the worst bass solo in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_u35sHICjE

Agreed, it would be funny if it weren't so bad. He does all the bad things fretless players are known for doing except all in one song.
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Bass VI on June 23, 2009, 11:00:06 PM
Ughhh.....

 Well I think I got about 30 seconds into it and realized I'd seen it. Thank God I don't have to go through it again. As for the "Wish someone would pull the plug" demo, at about 17 seconds the guy playing guitar looks at the camera and I'm pretty sure he's thinking "WTF! I'm never gonna help Steve out with a demo again" that made it all the funnier for me.
 In defense of the BassVI ( I mean come on look at my username ) it's not a bass it's not a guitar it's, it's.......well we don't know what it is, but try to imagine the Cure or New Order without one. 

Scott ( I've got three BassVIs' and no I would probably never solo on one! BassVI  :mrgreen:)
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: leftybass on June 24, 2009, 06:07:52 AM
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it's not a bass it's not a guitar it's, it's.......well we don't know what it is

I know what it is, been playing 6-string basses since I got my first one in 1990.
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Freuds_Cat on June 24, 2009, 06:20:11 AM
I know what it is, been playing 6-string basses since I got my first one in 1990.

an ERB?
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: leftybass on June 24, 2009, 06:49:28 AM
an ERB?

Ding ding ding!!!    :)
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Hornisse on June 24, 2009, 08:52:31 AM
When I think of the Bass VI I always think of Aerosmith's Back In The Saddle.  Perry played the track on Rocks but all I could find was Crespo's version after Perry had left the band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz4-fWb6wLw
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: eb2 on June 25, 2009, 12:28:53 PM
Jimmy Crespo was balls out, man.  No slouch at all.

If you find the (real) Fleetwood Mac Boston Tea Party gig CDs out there, Peter Green does an extended Bass VI solo, albeit not in a bass playing vein. But considering his first recorded stuff was as a bass player (Shotgun Express) then it is all cool.

Almost as cool as Jimmy Crespo.
Title: Re: fender VI bass solo
Post by: Hornisse on June 25, 2009, 03:43:58 PM
I really liked Rock In A Hard Place with Crespo on guitar.  It was a great record. 

I heard that Jack Bruce used a Bass VI on the Fresh Cream record too.