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Title: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: Dave W on February 18, 2008, 06:35:47 PM
Looks like he's in a bit of trouble: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2008/02/18/pj-proby-in-50k-fraud-inquiry-86908-20323137/

He only made the Top 40 once in the US (Niki Hoeky) but he did have some, ermmm, exposure in the UK in the 60s. Here he is being introduced by some guys: http://youtube.com/watch?v=w2mIgL51qkg
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: OldManC on February 18, 2008, 07:42:28 PM
Help a (slightly) younger brutha out. Is that the original "Walking the Dog"? I always liked Ratt's version...
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: OldManC on February 18, 2008, 07:43:59 PM
Ok, I looked it up on Allmusic. Damn, that song's been around! Rufus Thomas huh? 
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: Dave W on February 18, 2008, 11:17:22 PM
Don't know if he wrote it, but Rufus Thomas did do the original hit version.
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: uwe on February 19, 2008, 04:19:00 AM
Help a (slightly) younger brutha out. Is that the original "Walking the Dog"? I always liked Ratt's version...

I can't believe these youngsters (shaking head)  ... Ratt!!! Couldn't it have been at least these guys?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzWMKp8LS5M&feature=related

I'm slightly lower on the embarrassometer (beaming with pride): I first heard that song on the debut LP of the Rolling Stones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk0NvHnUkUE&feature=related

 and a couple of years later by Dr Feelgood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nyeSGaBcrA (that's not "Walking the dog", but you get the idea how it sounded with them, very much stripped bare and with that slightly aggressive nervous twitch)

Proby's version has a lot of that young Elvis charm to it.

Uwe

PS: "Walk the dog"? Now what hidden, probably adult-content meaning lies behind that?
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: OldManC on February 19, 2008, 05:02:39 AM
That first Ratt ep was awesome. I'll check the link but I'm figuring it's the Aerosmith version? Ratt's is better. That ep and the first two albums still get airplay at Casa Carlston to this day, though I never got into anything much past them (a song or two, but that's it). I saw Ratt about as many times as I saw Motley back in the day, as they came up at exactly the same time. I never saw them with Jake E. Lee, but I did see them with Marc Torien on guitar (singer from the Bulletboys). He was a great guitar player in the EVH mold. They always put on a great show and the bassist was pretty good too, though I liked his brother better who was in the band for a while (not too sure where Juan went but eventually he came back). 

I like how dirty PJ's voice makes that version sound. Musta been pretty scandalous at the time!
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: PhilT on February 19, 2008, 06:23:59 AM
Proby had a damn good voice, but lost credibility through the trouser-splitting stunt.

He joins Tom Jones and Rod Stewart in the bin of good British blues/R&B voices that got blown off the rails, one way or another, by the pop business. Only they made more money out of it.
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: Dave W on February 19, 2008, 08:24:20 AM
PJ may have lived in the UK for decades but he's still a native Houstonian.
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: PhilT on February 19, 2008, 11:26:53 AM
Oh, I should have seen that in the article you linked. I'd always assumed he was one of us.  ;)

Actually Evesham is about 10 miles away from where I live.
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: uwe on February 19, 2008, 01:10:20 PM
Why does not a single of you native speakers explain to me what "walking the dog" means? What lies hidden behind it? Herr Fertig has an usual explanation for sure  ::), but can I trust him?

Uwe
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: Dave W on February 19, 2008, 01:47:58 PM
It was a novelty dance song, no hidden meaning.

Walking the dog is also an old yo-yo trick, but that had nothing to do with the song. It was just the first of several dance songs he (Rufus Thomas, not PJ Proby) recorded.
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: PhilT on February 20, 2008, 06:29:36 AM
Why does not a single of you native speakers explain to me what "walking the dog" means? What lies hidden behind it? Herr Fertig has an usual explanation for sure  ::), but can I trust him?

Uwe

You'll be looking for hidden meanings in "Do the Funky Chicken" next.  ???

For many downtrodden English husbands, "taking the dog for a walk" means going to the pub for a pint or three to get away from the wife. Whether this ever made its way over to Memphis I have no idea.
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: Dave W on February 20, 2008, 10:19:55 AM
You'll be looking for hidden meanings in "Do the Funky Chicken" next.  ???

For many downtrodden English husbands, "taking the dog for a walk" means going to the pub for a pint or three to get away from the wife. Whether this ever made its way over to Memphis I have no idea.

No, it was just referring to a dance. Like the shag, twist, slauson, etc.

My very favorite dance song is right here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=pXq8rELhUkw  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: PhilT on February 20, 2008, 11:00:26 AM
No, it was just referring to a dance. Like the shag, twist, slauson, etc.

My very favorite dance song is right here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=pXq8rELhUkw  ;D

Yes, but we need to feed Uwe's belief that "native speakers" are keeping the dark depths of the language hidden from him.  Remember that thread we had on DP 2 or 3 about "Can the can"?  He won't be happy till we find something. ;D 

Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: uwe on February 20, 2008, 11:38:31 AM
That's darn right, I still think you're holding something back on Can the Can.

But I have meanwhile found an explanation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvj_mm_H0Y8

All of life's grand questions are answered by Krautrock bands like Can.
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: PhilT on February 20, 2008, 04:55:16 PM
Do you like soul music?

No!

Well, do The Trouser Press, baby,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SsX6sKL3hRg&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=SsX6sKL3hRg&feature=related)
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2008, 04:46:23 AM
My fave novelty dance was this:

Little Eva's original:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=i1mQwXW2MVg&feature=related

What a couple of white boys from Flint, Michigan, did to it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sSQOeQakExU (noteworthy for Herr Schacher's flamboyant choice of color  :o and Herr Farner's ability to unabashed solo in a minor scale over harmonies that cry for a major one - tip for the future: play your blues scales three frets down from where you would play them over minor harmonies in the relevant key and you'll sound major all of the sudden, Eric Clapton "invented" that!  ;) )

And finally some Australian sit com actress I believe ... with a version so sultry I don't believe you guys anymore about those novelty dance titles not being double entendres!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RUv0ARBfLbM&feature=related
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: Dave W on February 21, 2008, 11:34:55 AM
Another one I remember well was the Mashed Potato. Looked for a Dee Dee Sharp video that would actually show the dance and found this medley of Mashed Potato Time and Slow Twistin' (her duet with Chubby Checker), only Chubby's part here is sung by a young Billy Preston: http://youtube.com/watch?v=r_wD1r8enUE

Both hits were from '62, so if Billy was 19 this would have been from '65. Dee Dee wasn't much older, I think she was a star at 16.
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: PhilT on February 22, 2008, 07:13:44 AM
You gotta swing your hips now
Come on baby, jump up, jump back ...

... Chug-a chug-a motion like a railway train now
(C'mon baby do the loco-motion)
Do it nice and easy now don't lose control

No double entendre there, pure straight forward filth  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anyone remember PJ Proby?
Post by: PhilT on February 22, 2008, 07:41:47 AM
Returning to PJ Proby for a minute, this is the bit I remember, and I guess why there's the sound of ripping cloth at the end of The Bonzo Dogs' "Canyons of Your Mind".

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For most of his 58 years, Mr Proby has been in trouble - seeking it, courting it, revelling in it. But even he wasn't prepared for the reaction to the night of 29 January, 1965, at the Castle Hall, Croydon, when his blue velvet trousers split onstage from knee to crotch and plunged him towards Palookaville.

An alderman's wife who attended the concert said the act "left me physically sick and should be banned". The trouble might have been invisibly mended, but two nights later, at the Ritz in Luton, Proby's unfeasibly tight strides abruptly bifurcated once again during a Fate-tempting leg-split, and the curtain came down on his career.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19961109/ai_n14080456 (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19961109/ai_n14080456)



Quite extraordinary vocal style though, and he knew how to get the girls going.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ReE2HCwdmc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ReE2HCwdmc&feature=related)