The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Guitars Etc. => Topic started by: Blazer on November 29, 2008, 03:39:01 PM
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With Eric Clapton being one of the first to have a fender signature model and him having a rehab center going on the island of Antigua, it was bound to happen that these would be combined...
(http://www.samash.com/wcsstore/root/Large/lg_F/F3000281X_lg.jpg)
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I never liked that finish, I think its ugly.
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at only 5,000 bucks. whadda' deal. i have an 83' squire bought new that is a great guitar in every way. even 25 years later at today's prices it's still waaaaay more twang for the buck. ;)
plus the original white finish has yellowed nicely as has the misfits sticker near the bridge. :)
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If you buy one, does that entitle you to coast on your reputation for 30 years? :P
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Thirty years? I would say EC jumped the shark long before that. Cream's Goodbye lp didn't have that title for nothing.
But I love Antigua finishes.
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Ever see Pittsburgh Guitars' Antigua Collection (http://www.pittsburghguitars.com/collantigua.html)?
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If you buy one, does that entitle you to coast on your reputation for 30 years? :P
It is kind of sad that someone who once sounded so good in Cream would come out with "I Shot the Sheriff" and other crap.
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clapton did not write many of his post cream solo hits. i shot the sheriff is a good example.
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He didn't write a lot of Cream and pre-Cream stuff either. Jack Bruce and Pete Brown wrote a lot of Cream's songs.
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I always chalked the Delaney and Bonnie crap and Derek and The Dominoes period to an artistic meandering. After that period his tone gets ball-less and genrerally soul-less. By the time he is recording Wonderful Tonight and Rock N Roll Heart, his music is numbingly horrid. That doesn't mean he can't play still, but the Strat-era Clapton with rare exception is musical excrement.
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I had assumed he wrote most of his solo stuff. I hardly like any of it. Also, his guitar sounds the best on "Disraeli Gears," in my opinion. As far as songs that I know of that he has written, I really do think "Badge" is a great song, although I'm not sure how much of that he wrote and how much George Harrison wrote.
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George Harrison wrote a lot of it. The name comes from Clapton reading the lead sheet Harrison was writing out for them, where he saw it upside down. He thought the word "bridge" was "badge."
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That doesn't mean he can't play still, but the Strat-era Clapton with rare exception is musical excrement.
And the Antigua finish looks like excrement. A perfect match.
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Not much love for E. Clapton hereabouts........... :-\
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Outrageous love here for Clapton from Yardbirds, Bluesbreakers, Cream, and maybe even through Derek and The Dominoes. After that, the drop in gears is severe.
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I hate that finish- It reminds me of the absolute worst Fender instrument I ever had contact with- an Antigua Jazz Bass that was so bad, that when thieves broke into our store and stole a bunch of stuff, the Antigua Jazz bass was left in the lot behind the store. It was so bad no one would even STEAL it!!
However, I'm a big fan of Clapton. I quite admire how he consciusly moved away from being a "guitar god" to being a musician. And he still puts out those "make the audience cry with one note" solos, even on bad songs. I saw a "Saturday Night Live" performance of "Wondeful Tonight" where the solo was just exquisite.
He did have a long period of artistic confusion, caused as much by his management, as by his substance abuse (he was an alcoholic for a LONG time after he gave up smack). But the critical factor is that he is NOT (even though many of his fans are) trapped in 1967. Compare LZ' reunion with Cream's. Cream came out and didn't attempt to recreate the early days- they came out to play music with old friends for the same reasons they got together (before fame and adulation ruined the music) in the first place.
LZ tried to be like they were when they were young and vital, but they weren't.
jte
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If you buy one, does that entitle you to coast on your reputation for 30 years? :P
I'm waiting for the EC Les Paul sig guitar. It sounded and played better than the Strat IMHO.
And in reference to his post Guitar God era JJ Cale must be mentioned. Personally I dont think he should ever have done Escondido with Cale. Its kind of like a plain looking girl who looks OK by herself standing next to a gorgeous looking girl. Suddenly she looks downright ugly...... like that strat.
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I hate that finish- It reminds me of the absolute worst Fender instrument I ever had contact with- an Antigua Jazz Bass that was so bad, that when thieves broke into our store and stole a bunch of stuff, the Antigua Jazz bass was left in the lot behind the store. It was so bad no one would even STEAL it!!
However, I'm a big fan of Clapton. I quite admire how he consciusly moved away from being a "guitar god" to being a musician. And he still puts out those "make the audience cry with one note" solos, even on bad songs. I saw a "Saturday Night Live" performance of "Wondeful Tonight" where the solo was just exquisite.
He did have a long period of artistic confusion, caused as much by his management, as by his substance abuse (he was an alcoholic for a LONG time after he gave up smack). But the critical factor is that he is NOT (even though many of his fans are) trapped in 1967. Compare LZ' reunion with Cream's. Cream came out and didn't attempt to recreate the early days- they came out to play music with old friends for the same reasons they got together (before fame and adulation ruined the music) in the first place.
LZ tried to be like they were when they were young and vital, but they weren't.
jte
This all makes a lot of sense and I agree with most of it. But I don't know exactly what would be meant by being trapped in 1967. I feel that Cream's music is transcendent. I like Clapton's sound in Cream because it sounded better than his solo work. I don't feel it really has anything to do with time periods. When I think of someone trapped in the 60s, I automatically think of the father of a friend who listens to Beatles songs all the time and talks about that constantly. He doesn't seem to realize that there was any music beyond 1970. I just think it's inaccurate to label people as being trapped in the past because they don't like Clapton's solo work. That's the point.
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Clapton was at his best when he was inspired by Hendrix & Duane.
After they checked out Eric lost it.
He's had a few good moments since, but nothin' close to his glory days.
Dave's comment made me laff like hell. hahaa
That ax is FUGLY.
Coool how Eric sold so many of his famous guitars to raise millions for the rehab center that saved him.