The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Grog on July 20, 2017, 01:11:16 PM
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Rob's video may be the only one out there to date, but it's a start! Once the 20/20 reissue comes out in 2020, we'll be ready at the LBO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhM2AlEsEbE
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It's not the only one.
We did another video that features the dreaded 20/20! 😂
https://youtu.be/yJ4wEKX5Yp4
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These are great songs and the bass tone is superb. Was paging through some of your live videos and saw some other unique basses. I'm guessing these are basses you customized?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbcDhLQBLFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7KvyljCB38
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The red Les Paul bass is the first bass I built myself. Initially it had two G3 single coils in the neck position and an Artec mudbucker in the bridge position. But I was a bit disappointed with the two single coils. They didn't sound dense enough for my liking. So I asked Dutch luthier-par-excellence Eugen Wulff (Gun Customs) to make me a new pair that would be a drop in replacement with a phatter sound and more punch.
The other bass is a shortscale BaCH semi acoustic bass. It originally had just the one mudbucker at the neck. I put a pair of Gibson Les Paul Bass lo-z humbuckers in.
I only connected the last coil tap on both pickups (full windings). And didn't bother to make an in- or out- phase option. Just a three way pickup selector toggle, volume pot and tone pot.
This bass sounds huge. The pickups are placed a littler wider from each other than they would be on a Gibson Les Paul Bass. This makes the difference between neck pickup and bridge pickup a bit bigger.
Favorite setting ( same as my Les Paul bass) is both pickups engaged.
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Found another video that features a 20/20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InNeRZALbvU
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Alas!, what amounts of ridicule I had to put up with when I dragged the first one along at I think it was still the Dudepit ... Retribution!
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Guilty as charged!
It took me at least ten years to see the genius of the design.
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I ain't givin' up until one of'em is at the MoMA up for display! :mrgreen:
(https://www.newyorksightseeing.com/media/catalog/product/cache/29/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/m/o/moma1_2.jpg)
Come to think of it, one of the original Steinberger paddles actually is IIRC.
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One day, many moons ago, I was Googling any information I could find on the 20/20. I came across a link; "Uwe! Gibson 20/20". That was my first exposure to the LBO. Since then, I bought a second one & still haven't been shunned here................
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My 15 minutes of fame! :mrgreen:
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This thing might be catching on! This video from less than a month ago..........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRZFBL-IPAI
The last decent red one I recall up for sale had the Stiney leg rest missing, this may be that bass.
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All 20/20 players look kinda like him and still live with their mom. :popcorn:
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:rimshot:
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If my Mom (or Dad) had a nice rack of guitars like that at home, I may have never moved out either............... ;)
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Uwedipus... is that your mother calling...? :mrgreen:
Is that an RD in the rack behind him...?
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is that neck really that skinny up by the money frets, or is it just an optical illusion created by the weird shape?
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Yes and a Thunderbird and one of the Big Bottomed girls
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If my Mom (or Dad) had a nice rack of guitars like that at home, I may have never moved out either............... ;)
I know what you're thinking......
"Look at the rack on that one!!" :-*
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You naughty college person you... :mrgreen:
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No one ever said the scenery on a college campus wasn't good.... 8)
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:mrgreen:
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This isn't really a music video. It's an informational video using random photos of guitars he found on the web, including a photo of my basses & photos from Rob's book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoBXykf4DXQ
On a separtate note, it looks like a 20/20 is for sale in Australia. Other than changed knobs, it looks to be original............
http://www.premierguitars.com.au/product/gibson-steinberger-2020-bass-usa-1987/
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Ten seconds in and I knew it was a Trogly video and hit the stop button. He's a guy who uses 100 words where one will do. Even if he got to the point quickly, his voice is one of the most annoying on YT.
Assuming that 20/20 in Australia is priced in AUD it would be less than $900 USD.
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A severe case of Vocal Fry.
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Sounds a little like Emo Phillips too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEZn7Tr5Cmw
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I like the effort the dude in Australia put into his homemade hard-shell case. I just made an insert to fit into a Chinese rectangular case.
(https://i.imgur.com/0Wdd46g.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/gRL0ox5l.jpg)
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Nice!
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I like the effort the dude in Australia put into his homemade hard-shell case. I just made an insert to fit into a Chinese rectangular case.
(https://i.imgur.com/0Wdd46g.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/gRL0ox5l.jpg)
What's with the signature by the logo on the horn?
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It looks like the gold of the print oxidised a bit
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It looks like the gold of the print oxidised a bit
Noooo, it has a Ned Steinberger signature. Unsure whether this is normal.
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They all have that
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Jules Haffegee made and excellent video of the 20/20!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytP40JveGsw
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Nice job running it through different tone possibilities! Not many out there in Ferrari Red.
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Very popular in The Netherlands and pretty much nowhere else. 8)
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Very popular in The Netherlands and pretty much nowhere else. 8)
I think there's exactly one person in The Netherlands who thinks they're awesome. 8)
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I think there's exactly one person in The Netherlands who thinks they're awesome. 8)
And maybe 5 or 6 more on the rest of the planet. ;)
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Jules Haffegee made and excellent video of the 20/20!
And now everybody knows how the 20/20 they might come across one day will sound on their Lab Series L2 amp :)
Seriously, I like this vid. Every Gibson bass needs a good non-shop-guy-focus presentation on a real amp.
That is Fly Jules, right?
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I think there's exactly one person in The Netherlands who thinks they're awesome. 8)
Close to 50% of the local population then - like I said.
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And maybe 5 or 6 more on the rest of the planet. ;)
Could there be one on Mars? Ancient Alien Theorists say YES! :vader:
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That is Fly Jules, right?
Yes.
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This is just part 1 - dealing with the 20/20 controls. Part 2 (to follow) demonstrates the AWESOME Lab L2 midrange frequency control.
I've been in the valve = good, SS = lame camp for years, but that is changing. The Lab series amps are incredible, and usually very affordable. Controls (like all late 70s Gibson stuff) need to be mastered in order to get the best, but these are INCREDIBLE amps.
My third 20/20 video (also to follow) demos it through a valve amp - a Marshall 2061X 20w lead/bass reissue. Again incredible amp!
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I've been in the valve = good, SS = lame camp for years, but that is changing. The Lab series amps are incredible, and usually very affordable. Controls (like all late 70s Gibson stuff) need to be mastered in order to get the best, but these are INCREDIBLE amps.
Never heard a Lab, at least - not yet. I work with tube amps on a daily basis, but it's always fun when transistor amps of proper design comes in to the shop. And yes, prices are usually good too. Just a shame people still compare good ones to the first fender/marshall transistor efforts, or even more recent class d amps without hearing them.
As a sidenote, last week I got this Allsound Leslie (made in Germany) 'stack' in for tube change and general service. The owner, who plays in an outfit that was active in the late 70's, wanted it tip top as the band got a 70's record reissued, and they did some shows still. He was more than surprised when I told him that it was a transistor amp, but I must say - anything you plugged into this amp sounded really good..
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https://youtu.be/cVUjOO5DVtk
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He looks hyper concentrated. Not very relaxed.
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He sounds Hyper Concentrated. Not a lot of content out there lately fo the 20/20 connoisseur.
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Indeed.
Kind of awkward choice to play the left hand part of a keyboard part on a bass so disconnected from the keyboard.
He does look/sound like a tight bass player. Even though it does not work for me on this particular song.
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He looks hyper concentrated. Not very relaxed.
And so would I playing even attempting to play this stuff! Not exactly an intuitive bass line, very jazz rock-funk-left hand keyboard'ish. That even could memorize the parts (because he is obviously not reading them).
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Back in 2014 Definition Of Madmen invited a bunch of friends to the rehearsal room called The Bunker. The Bunker is an air raid shelter which was converted into an underground bar.
The idea was to make a live demo for promotion. Just play live in front of our friends. Some drinks. Lots of fun.
But we faced some technical challenges. There was a noise we couldn't eliminate. Each time the fridge switched on, we got a spike in the audio. And one of the three cameras appeared to have recorded only stills instead of video...
As a result we never bothered to use any of the footage.
But yesterday Mick Hup (lead guitars and lead vocals) managed to fix the spikes and noise. He mixed the audio and edited the video footage that survived several hard disk crashes.
Song: Common Sense
Band: Definition Of Madmen
Mick Hup :Guitar, Lead Vocal
Rob van den Broek: Bass, Vocal
Lars Koetsier: Guitar
Theo Outhuyse†: Drums.
Recorded & Filmed live at Buisje Bunker's place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9FCt3qUuqo
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I love it. Good stuff, Rob.
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:toast:
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Nice! The 20/20 will have it’s day!
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Nice. Good singer.