The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Guitars Etc. => Topic started by: Highlander on April 02, 2016, 12:58:53 PM
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Bought a Squier Tele for £60, which is circa 1/3 UK retail, from a charity shop... needs a clean, a new set of strings, and a top for the pup selector... found one minor dent... that's it... perfectly set-up... made no sense to see this at this price nor where it was... had the same sort of luck with my black Jazz, which I picked up for £68 five or six years back...
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Nice ! crank it up loud through your hiwatt!!
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Yeah man. Those are definately worth that much and decent guitars. About a decade ago I got one in a Krakow pawn shop for the equivalent of CA$40; made my vacation.
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I thought all purchases were impulse purchases! Enjoy
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Now you'll need to join TDPRI and have other Squier players try to convince you that you need £600 of upgrades.
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Now you'll need to join TDPRI and have other Squier players try to convince you that you need £600 of upgrades.
True. And then they'll convince you to throw away that junk neck and replace it with a true fender. And the next month they'll say "you MUST change the body also if you want TRUE sound".
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my son has one of those. its a really good guitar for very little money.
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Love it...
Stuff the upgrades... sits quite nicely beside my scabby old SG, which still needs work... so what's new...? :mrgreen:
Tony... the Hiwatt's still sick... a project once we've concluded the re-settling, which is imminent...
Kostas... where the Heck have you been hiding...? :mrgreen:
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True. And then they'll convince you to throw away that junk neck and replace it with a true fender. And the next month they'll say "you MUST change the body also if you want TRUE sound".
In TDPRI we trust! For once I'm glad that a forum enforces its 'no politics' rule, as I imagine it would be like a Klan rally over there...
I lost a lot of respect for that forum after they had a thread discussing dowsing for water. A few posters linked to research papers that demonstrated that dowsing doesn't work any better than pure chance, when tested rigorously in a controlled environment. This new fangled science wasn't good enough for the hicks over there, because their uncle/cousin/pastor had found a spring in their back yard using two sticks or two lengths of copper wire. That, to me, explained a lot of the hardware and capacitor 'upgrade' threads. These guys actually value science and demonstrable principles less than some fuzzy empirical feel-good evidence. I also wager that those guys are deaf, from running dimed ice-pick Fender amps for years, anyway. Sometimes you see some guy's rig and it is an '80s red knob Fender amp with some '80s rack effects unit, and these guys are talking about how to get Roy Buchanan tone. :bored:
Bunch of hillbillies. :mrgreen:
My MIM Tele didn't need a thing replaced on it, and I play it most days.
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I doubt it would be anything like a Klan rally, I've seen the whole political spectrum posted there and quickly shut down. Paul is strict about his no politics rule, keep doing it and you're gone.
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I'd settle for Wilko's tone... :mrgreen:
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I'd settle for Wilko's tone... :mrgreen:
So would I. And I still can't figure out his technique even though he's explained it.
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I doubt it would be anything like a Klan rally.
The few folk that I've seen make any nod towards politics (cleaned up hastily, I must add) seemed to be going that way.
Wilko's technique was, I think, an approximation of Mick Green's technique, which was an approximation of Chet Atkins' technique... Daniel Ash of Bauhaus was approximating Wilko, and no doubt somebody ripped of Ash at some point.... so all roads lead to Chet Atkins!
From what I can make out, Wilko keeps the right hand going all the time, like a motor. He then uses his left hand to block the strings and fret as necessary. I can keep it up for about 20 seconds or so... it seems wasteful but he makes it work, and those tunes don't sound right played any other way. I think his technique also suited the fast attack of his HH IC100 amps, whereas he sounds a bit murky with the Fender tube amps he is using now. You need an IC100, set to clean and turned up so loud the speakers break up slightly! Your neighbours will love you.
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I knew the Mick Green link (saw the Pirates, and his style of playing) but not the Chet one...
Didn't Hendrix also employ some of those stylizations...?
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I don't see a connection to Chet. IMHO Wilko's road leads back to James Burton, and James calls Scotty Moore his main influence.
One of several videos where Wilko explains it. Looks easy until you try to do whole songs with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPg9P1q2icA
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That's a cool demonstration. I confess I hadn't known of Mr. Johnson before. This approach reminds me of years ago reading some interview with John Frusciante where he said that at some point during his time with the Red Hot Chili Peppers he developed hitting all 6 strings most of the time and control things entirely with careful left-hand muting. Probably the funk players he was emulating did similar things.
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For example... Nile Rodgers breaks his approach down pretty well in this. I wish I could play guitar like this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF-XDf_jf5w
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That's a cool demonstration. I confess I hadn't known of Mr. Johnson before. This approach reminds me of years ago reading some interview with John Frusciante where he said that at some point during his time with the Red Hot Chili Peppers he developed hitting all 6 strings most of the time and control things entirely with careful left-hand muting. Probably the funk players he was emulating did similar things.
A little background: Wilko Johnson: ‘I can’t get my head around the idea that I’ve got a future’ (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jul/10/wilko-johnson-interview-ive-got-a-future)
Wilko in the 70s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHNZUop7OK0
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I like it! I don't understand how the hell he does that without a pick.
His feel is somehow rocking, funky, and stiff all at once. An aesthetic slightly ahead of its time perhaps; Gang of Four would be one band among many that tried a similar combination a few years later:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFU_1h7io0Y
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Wilko dead-pans sublimely... nice posts all round...
Lee Brileaux... died far too young... They were a powerful live act...
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Gang of Four
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassss (https://files.42amsterdam.net/samforum/images/smilies/wootrock.gif)
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I don't see a connection to Chet. IMHO Wilko's road leads back to James Burton, and James calls Scotty Moore his main influence.
I've only seen Wilko refer to Mick Green. I've never seen him talk about Chet directly, which is not to say it never happened. Without instructional videos Wilko would only get a rough idea of what Mick Green was doing. Likewise Green probably only had a vague inclination of how Chet was playing, and was using it for more aggressive means with the Pirates anyway.
To go 'up the chain', Daniel Ash's guitar approach is different again, be it the occasional nod to dub reggae with tape echo stuff or unleashing blasts of sheer noise. Not really like Wilko at all, but Daniel Ash still cites him as an influence. Gary Arce of the desert rock band Yawning Man cites Ash as an influence, but he has this really open, spacious tone reliant on reverb and sustained notes. He doesn't sound like Ash, but somehow got his lead from him.
I suppose it would be like questioning how John Entwistle was any sort of influence on Chris Squire.
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I suppose so. Keep in mind that the head of the chain leads to Merle Travis. He influenced Chet, not the other way around. He also influenced Scotty Moore and James Burton, but that's a different chain from Chet.
Merle Travis developed the modern style -- that's why it's usually called Travis picking -- although he didn't invent it. It comes from Appalachian folk style picking practiced by white and black musicians before him.
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Bought my wonderful Tele ('83 SQ-series 70's reissue) as an impulse buy. Teles are great impulse buys ;-)
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Bought my wonderful Tele ('83 SQ-series 70's reissue) as an impulse buy. Teles are great impulse buys ;-)
Is that a Japanese Squier Bullet, or something different?
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Not a Bullet! Mine is an SQ Tele.
The first MIJ Squiers ('82 JV xxxx serial) were 57/62 reissues, very well made and very collectible today. They are comparable to any MIA vintage reissue (if not better). Jimmy Vaughan and Jeff Healey both liked and used JV Squiers.
The late-'83-84 Squiers (SQ xxxx serial) were 70's reissues, also excellent, but SQ's had Japanese-made pickups. Less expensive than JV's but still sought-after and collectible today. And definitely better than real 70's Fenders that they copy... The headstock decal resembled the TV logo and is the best thing about them, because it says Squier, so you can still buy them for a reasonable price and get a killer Fender.
Here she is with my '75/77 J:
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/ilanlukatch/Black%20and%20Maple/FullSizeRender1.jpg)
This one is not mine but it's identical and the picture is better:
(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--C_Z6YBih--/a_exif/v1454862581/dzihvzochmbc6znipmtf.jpg)
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Nice... 8)
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Thanks for the education.