The Last Bass Outpost

I prodded and tickled the search engine, and apparently there isn't such a thread... I'm leaving out the obvious choices to begin with.

Michael Gunther - Agitation Free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGWSILbP4S0

Douglas Hart - Jesus and Mary Chain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM2EVJJ3DGI

"Happy" Dieter - Tangerine Dream (but not as you know them)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BdsuDeFl3c

David Steele - The Beat (I thought this track captures the rubbery tone of an EB-2 really well)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cbUW2EY4KE

Paul Samwell-Smith
https://youtu.be/mn6q_jcc0uo

Chris Dreja
https://youtu.be/w9fZ7oydsl4

The EB-2s were stuck together with their solid body brethren in the EB-0, -1, -3 and -4 thread, but they deserve their own. Some nice footage there - wow, Tangerine Dream when they still had stringed instruments, a rare find. Surreal in many ways and they showed this on state TV.  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7aOWIFgIZQ

The Black Rebel Motorcycle Club bassist is probably the current player who is best known for sticking mostly to Rivolis and EB-2s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NE57r2MH4E

Get those moves right when you play an EB-2/Rivoli!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5Se-9XAVE

Anti-Complacency League, baby!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfpRm-p7qlY

And I don't think that this thread could be complete without this piece of stark naked underrated performance art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4QBhC1uCP4

Man, it is like stupid hard to find a vid of Simon Gallup rocking one (vs a F/MM or his long scale nonGibby hollowbody).  Plenty of still pics tho.

I didn't know Simon Gallop did! I've seen photos of him with that Eccleshall bass, and I found a video of him playing a Guild SFII, but that's it so far...

Butch Hauf - Organisation (Ralf und Florian's pre-Kraftwerk band).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fejcQFJWgw

This track is on Kraftwerk's debut album, minus the Afrobeat leanings.

Kevin Ayers - The Soft Machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7y_pA-L2ww

Using Marshall heads as PA equipment, no less.

Tony Reeves - Colosseum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKdjcar9fr0

Dusty Jermier - Wooden Shjips (cheating, as he has a Model One in the neck position).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruqMD60uMUA

Quote from: Alanko on November 13, 2015, 11:50:48 AM
I didn't know Simon Gallop did! I've seen photos of him with that Eccleshall bass, and I found a video of him playing a Guild SFII, but that's it so far...

Yup:

(http://www.wikicure.com/tikiwiki/img/wiki_up//Simo%20EB%202.jpg)

(http://www.wikicure.com/tikiwiki/img/wiki_up//Gallup%2091.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8qHuE2Px8c

How about this?

Wow.   Didn't see that one.  I saw a live version of A Forest that had what I thought to be that bass, but what I initially thought to be the crown headstock inlay towards the start of the vid turned out to be a knight (chess pc).  Looks like he replaced the bridge with one very similar to the Eccleshall, though it's hard to tell in that vid.

You can see how it can be confused easily (unlike Hooky's very similar bass, this one doesn't have Alembic/BC Rich knob count and different headstock inlays) - Gotta look for the mudbucker as the giveaway (looks like a bart in here - that much is like Hooky's):

(http://www.reocities.com/FashionAvenue/1625/simonbw1.jpg)

Depressing - as The Cure often tends to be.  :sad:

Can't we have something uplifting like The Smiths or Morrissey?

He never lets me have a minute of fun.  Must everything be classic rock and hair metal all the time?

Ahem... I wish to make a complaint... This thread, started not less than 24 hours ago...

Ah yes, the EB2 and Rivoli Thread... Beautiful music...

It's not original...

Wot d'you mean, not original... corse it's original...

Well then, my good man... what's this thread (http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=5698.0), started more than four years ago and posted in barely four weeks ago... :mrgreen:

It did feel a bit familiar.  :o

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on November 13, 2015, 01:08:24 PM
He never lets me have a minute of fun.  Must everything be classic rock and hair metal all the time?

Jake, stop your blue moanin'!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9rhdNOxh8A

And lighten up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMW_ROS94Kk

For the avoidance of doubt: I have more Cure, Smiths and especially Morrissey CDs than I have of BTO. The Smiths stuff suffers for the really meek and tinny production, but Morrissey's solo work is not only sonically much better. Hey, I even have Johnny Marr CDs!

Not sure it still counts towards your hipster cred if your son  left them with you when he moved out for school.  :P

The early clip of Tangerine Dream is quite fun, but not really great music. That is Klaus Schulze on drums! Really Edgar Froese is the only link between this lineup at the later band.

The crowd look pretty awkward and sheepish, like they didn't really know what they were meant to be doing, but it had to be something far out. This reflects on something I read  about the band Van Der Graaf Generator. When they first went over to Germany in the late '60s nobody knew what this counter culture was about, and the audience was basically short-haired kids raised on Schlager music. The next time VDGG were over there, only a short period of time later, everybody had their hair grown out to their waist and spent their time hanging out with Andreas Baader and the like in weird communes. LSD consumption was rife; well above anything VDGG were up to.

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on November 14, 2015, 12:33:07 PM
Not sure it still counts towards your hipster cred if your son  left them with you when he moved out for school.  :P

:mrgreen:

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on November 14, 2015, 12:33:07 PM
Not sure it still counts towards your hipster cred if your son  left them with you when he moved out for school.  :P

I'm afraid that my son's judgement about The Smiths/Morrissey would have been extremely damning irrespective whether you would have asked him during his Right Said Fred, Eminem, Korn, White Stripes, Judas Priest, Whitesnake, Mötley Crüe, Towers of London, Cinderella, Led Zeppelin, Gary Clarke Junior, Leadbelly or Son House phase. The one thing he has never had a taste for is Brit Indie and Brit Pop or Rock. "Too sexless, pimply-shoegazerish, emo and lacking true mojo" he'd say. Pretty much the only thing comparatively recently Brit that finds grace with him is the Baby Shambles/Pete Doherty. With very few exceptions, he prefers American music (or music by Brits trying to sound American) to British music.

BTO find grace with him btw for their ability to write a catchy three chord riff (as in You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet). Though Lou Reed would probably take issue with the term "write" and point to his own Sweet Jane which preceded BTO's hit quite a bit.

Chas Chandler

https://youtu.be/Q3mgapAcVdU

Great singer. There is something about young Burdon's look that always reminds me of Russell Crowe. Or vice versa.

I like a lot of '80s  goth music, such as Bauhaus, Fields of the Nephilim, Einsturzende Neubauten, Killing Joke and co. I have absolutely no love for Morrissey whatsoever, and only limited patience for anything The Smiths ever recorded. Morrissey seems like a delusional stageschool kid who thinks that a few campy Dickensian mannerisms offer a usable substitute to actual intellect. There is a reason he is enduringly popular in Latin countries where English is the 2nd or 3rd language; he sounds intelligent as long as you don't actually focus in on the words, and his weird pompy vocal delivery make it sound like he has something important to say. You cock your head to one side and deliver your pointless hyperbole in a sneering and aloof manner, so therefore you must be smart, right?

The problem, for me, is that homosexuality is now so commonly accepted in the UK that you aren't in any sort of direct opposition to anything if you happen to mince around a bit and wear a tight shirt. Nobody is really judging you for that, and actually a lot of heterosexual guys dress the same way Morrissey did in the '80s. What is the big deal? Old Smiths videos look like bad pantomime, with Morrissey flaunting this disturbingly crass poofter image, all whilst resolutely denying any form of homosexuality and maintaining celibacy. To me that reeks of a weird form of gay-sploitation; adopting all the effete mannerisms your chuntering homophobic Dad was angry at purely to present yourself as a credible 'musician in opposition' to flog a few records? That shit has aged badly. At the end of the day I don't really care about 'crashing bores' or rough working men's clubs, so Morrissey's solo works do nothing for me either.

Johnny Marr was the real brains of that outfit, but I don't think he could come up with a good guitar tone if you put a gun to his head.

Yeah, not gonna defend Morrissey too much, but his lyrics (at least during The Smiths era), were hilarious and not stupid at all - there I will disagree with you.  By comparison most goth/industrial is really on the nose, which is kinda part of the schtick.  I had his stuff beaten in to me as all the older kids at camp/scouts loved him and played him incessantly on the beach boombox (I remember the year Kill Uncle came out rather well - the local tour stop was in the middle of camp and so many kids wanted to go that they actually let them drive back to the city for it... and then they all wore out thweir concert shirts by wearing them every day for the next 2 weeks, out on bivuak and all; pine sap never washes out guys).  It wasn't until later that I was able to tell the songs apart.  I agree the production is tragically unimaginative for the most part (though some people, including audio engineeers, love it - why I dunno.... maybe because it is so clean and tidy, if a bit ball-less).  Never really into it except for a short period when I discovered Marr's flourishes and started listening to the lyrics.  The best ofs get a spin every now and again

Steve Swallow, and a sad story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNo1VqARE7Y#t=237

Steve rips it up on this bass. From TDPRI:

QuoteKeep in mind that this was when I was 24 and much dumber than I am now, BUT I had Steve Swallow's first electric bass, a 1962 Gibson eb-2. Over the years, he had customized the electronics and tried some weird prototype pickups and it was pretty far from original when I got it for $500. It was a great bass, though.

We were doing a show opening for the Boo Radleys and it was a packed house, very exciting. At the end, I threw the bass way up into the sky. As it came down a light caught my eye and it went right by my outstretched hand and sheared the headstock completely off. Our drummer was in the middle of knocking over his kit as well and people were screaming and cheering. The headstock could have easily been repaired, but I'm afraid I picked up the bass and destroyed it. Kindling.

Jazz history has never been one of my big passions, I'm afraid.

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bad-dog-cafe/597280-have-you-ever-smashed-guitar-onstage.html (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bad-dog-cafe/597280-have-you-ever-smashed-guitar-onstage.html)

Looks like 2 model 1s in there.

Dirtier tone than one would expect for that sort of music; wicked run tho.

That's a really nice clip! That is a dirty bass sound - but fits nicely in the music somehow.

I'm guessing that sound is flats and amp dirt? Dirt doesn't seem a big component in jazz bass circles so it was nice to hear! You can also tell Steve is following the changes with the vibes player, which is also fascinating to hear.

Cool clip. I'm guessing flats too. I often cite Steve Swallow when people start throwing around that silly "bass players shouldn't use a pick" nonsense. Last time I saw him (probably early 90s) he was playing a Parker Fly. In fact, I think that's the first time I ever saw one.

Not a video, but take a look at who's playing an EB-2 or Rivoli here (https://www.facebook.com/OddballGibsons19731983/photos/a.133021273534443.26338.132999666869937/520560744780492/?type=3&theater)

Stone Temple Pilots - Plush:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5UOC0C0x8Q&list=RDV5UOC0C0x8Q

Oh lord.  The (I have coined a new genre: grunge prog) band across the hall plays that one ALL. THE. TIME.  I was sick of it back in high school.

A lot of that '90s Grunge stuff sounds the same. A lot of the videos look the same as well. Why are the colours always pumped like that?

I wager that EB-2 never went anywhere near the studio when they were cutting that track! One of those songs I've heard but never known who was responsible.

On the topic of miming...

Noel Redding:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXwMrBb2x1Q

Glen Cornick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0GAuexrVzo

Suzi Quatro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x7C3zv8QnM

Well anyhow, Robert DeLeo of Stone Temple Pilots sure seems to like EB-2's according to what he says here:

https://twitter.com/stprobertdeleo/status/560317763760041984 (https://twitter.com/stprobertdeleo/status/560317763760041984)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8amCY5CEAAfv8k.jpg:large)

That does however not prove he used one during recordings in the 90's though.

Suzi was obviously not grunge. What a relief.

But she would have fit in just fine if she was in that scene at the time (depending on the phase; maybe not some of her more glammy periods).  Nothing is an island - you're the one who likes to connect genre dots all the time.

I really hate it when you use my own arguments against me.

(http://facio.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Charliebrown3.jpg)

http://www.myvideo.de/musik/status-quo/living-on-an-island-stereo-video-video-m-7747441

Quote from: doombass on November 27, 2015, 03:15:32 AM
Well anyhow, Robert DeLeo of Stone Temple Pilots sure seems to like EB-2's according to what he says here:

https://twitter.com/stprobertdeleo/status/560317763760041984 (https://twitter.com/stprobertdeleo/status/560317763760041984)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8amCY5CEAAfv8k.jpg:large)

That does however not prove he used one during recordings in the 90's though.

A late mudbucker convert.

Quote from: uwe on November 30, 2015, 05:43:18 AM
I really hate it when you use my own arguments against me.

I really love it when you notice.

Herman's Hermits. That singer has some exciting teeth! I see the bassist has the strap mounted on the headstock. He also has quite an interesting left hand technique, with the thumb rooted in behind the E string. Because the bass is on such a sort strap, his left arm approaches from behind the bridge, forcing his wrist into an awkward-looking ninety degree turn. That can't be comfortable!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHI3ZT_uGjA

Quote from: Alanko on December 04, 2015, 06:03:56 PM
Herman's Hermits. That singer has some exciting teeth! I see the bassist has the strap mounted on the headstock. He also has quite an interesting left hand technique, with the thumb rooted in behind the E string. Because the bass is on such a sort strap, his left arm approaches from behind the bridge, forcing his wrist into an awkward-looking ninety degree turn. That can't be comfortable!

That's Karl Green, original bassist of Herman's Hermits (https://www.facebook.com/karlgreenofficial/?fref=ts)

I see he's lengthened his strap a bit since then!

Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pLZwUSDtYU

After the lefty Rivoli(!) Karl moved to an upside-down righty T-Bird, then on to a lefty P-Bass.

The above-mentioned Robert DeLeo with an(other) EB-2 early on in the STP-career, he also wrote the music (posted on behalf of Rob who found this):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5UOC0C0x8Q

Tenpole Tudor!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJbJAjM5Ho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJbJAjM5Ho

Who killed Bambi?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ0FO5zF6nc

Quote from: Alanko on January 08, 2016, 04:28:45 PM
Tenpole Tudor!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJbJAjM5Ho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJbJAjM5Ho

Who killed Bambi?

Adam Ant, Marty Feldman, Gary Holton all rolled into one and quintessentially British! As Brit as "wiring loom".  :mrgreen:

Occult rock!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEmALYV72sc

Did anybody ever wear his guitar higher than Gerry Marsden?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77T3LCZr0ks

Billy Sheehan keeps his bass straps fairly short, which I think makes him look a little dorky. There was some post-rock band whose guitarists had stupidly short straps, but I forget their name.


Epi EB-2 D? Or a copy? Fairly shite band either way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or8J4QjdUnE

Looks more like an Epiphone Rivoli reissue to me but I could be wrong.   I headed your warning and watched the video with the volume off   ;D

Is that an EB-2 or a Rivoli, hard to catch it and the upper and lower horn look kind of weird? Soundwise, it could be, with the baritone switch activated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1j6m9edJwI

See, Jake, sometimes I even post punk!

 :-X

Wot?! You thankless Canuck, I was expecting gratitude-drenched adulation!!!

 :P

Some of our Canadian visitors might appreciate this ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfK-WX2pa8c

I had forgotten about Simonon  using one in that vid - he never had one in any other vid or show where pictoral evidence remains.

FYI, such a great performer and player despite rather humble/naive beginnings.  He was the star on the stage when I saw The Good the Bad and the Queen (Albarn was lackluster and Tong litterally stoodmotionless in a dark rear corner of the stage looking down the whole time).

He was certainly the best-looking kid in The Clash - chiseled features.

I never realized until now that he is an impressionist. With his agit-punk background I was either expecting harsh realism or something abstract ..., how bourgeois!

(http://paulsimonon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/WIL6-0708-009L.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5170/5377179357_bcc20db653_b.jpg)

All revolution is essentially middle class.

The paintings are pretty impressive

l'm not the world's greatest Impressionism fan, but they're well-done. Of course, as impressionist painters go, poor Paul runs a serious risk of either going mad/cutting off his ear

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Vincent_van_Gogh_-_National_Gallery_of_Art.JPG/330px-Vincent_van_Gogh_-_National_Gallery_of_Art.JPG)

or going colo(u)r-blind/losing his fine sight (that's a late stage Monet, not a Van Gogh):

(http://www.iberkshires.com/ckfinder/userfiles/images/Monet_The_Path_under_the_Rose_Arches.jpg)

Let's just hope he doesn't.

Mighty nice paintings.

Dave is being ironic ..., the "mighty" gives it away ...  8)

its not impressionism until you can't recognize the subject matter.

This made an impressionism on me... could't make sense of it, so I loved it... :mrgreen:

(https://timebulleteer.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/zappaf-wereon_05.jpg)

Quote from: uwe on April 05, 2016, 10:29:00 AM
Dave is being ironic ..., the "mighty" gives it away ...  8)

I wasn't. And I was referring to Simonon, not Monet.

Quote from: nofi on April 05, 2016, 01:51:07 PM
its not impressionism until you can't recognize the subject matter.

:mrgreen:

Quote from: nofi on April 05, 2016, 01:51:07 PM
its not impressionism until you can't recognize the subject matter.

Ah, Nofi, those stoned daze in art class come back to haunt you, expressionism, expressionism my dear ...  :)

Renaissance:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a0/Simpsons-michaelangelo.jpg)

Impressionism:
(http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Willie.png)

Pointilism:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4025/4601444014_528310b259.jpg)

Expressionism / Symbolism:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0f/7d/30/0f7d302462e3b9ce65224575408e5176.jpg)

Surrealism:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/33/f6/af/33f6aff4ee3c34b7cfd6c0e7676aaef3.jpg)

Cubism:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/64/4d/14/644d1458ea803b77dafb7c194ed99e0d.jpg)

Abstract expressionism:
(http://theartist.me/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/abstract_expressionism-520x330.jpg)

heh heh

Great Art!!!

(http://thoughtandsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/5_667_500_90.jpg)

I had to change my avatar, that was so brilliant....

It is. There is a Homer Simpson lurking in all of us.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/36/c2/b4/36c2b4dbfc8becf359d3396a51161d7b.jpg)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2253/1803777980_f6de9536df_z.jpg?zz=1)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/23/22/5b/23225b4925a2e6fcb68a3f71092f298c.jpg)

I worked with someone who considered him to be a role model...

The original Magritte that last one is spoofing is pretty much my favorite surreal painting ever.

"I worked with someone who considered him to be a role model ..."

Anybody who vocally admits to liking Grand Funk Railroad can't be a bad person.

Quote from: uwe on April 06, 2016, 03:47:55 PM
"I worked with someone who considered him to be a role model ..."

Anybody who vocally admits to liking Grand Funk Railroad can't be a bad person.

And an appreciation for "bong rattling bass".

A bit of a detour, but I spotted a Les Paul Signature bass in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnejs-7EgdA

In my personal hell, this tune is playing on an endless loop. That way madness surely lies.

Also a wild Rivoli sighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6fegotswzs

Both bands are a bit of a lame '50s throwback really. I saw both clips on a BBC compilation show earlier today.

Quote from: Alanko on May 28, 2016, 05:21:44 AM

Both bands are a bit of a lame '50s throwback really. I saw both clips on a BBC compilation show earlier today.

Wow, the Inmates certainly loved that first Stones record.  They're totally a cleaned up (slightly more banal) version of that era, which is very much 50s based.  The singer looks a bit like young Mick too; nails the voice and inflection.

This BBC compilation show was all about pub rock. The attitude of early punk was there (as it probably was with the early Stones, somewhere between credible tough-guy-outsider act and poser artschool side-project for privileged kids ala The Clash), but the music was unanimously terrible. The only band on the show that I liked was Doctor Feelgood, because they were fairly idiosyncratic and original. The rest were dodgy, skeevy looking English guys trying to sound like American '50s acts. Bands included Graham Parker and the Rumour, Ace, Ducks Deluxe, The Motors and even a late '70s Dave Edmunds performance.

I don't understand how this music was intended to be the home-cooking response to Prog rock. For their faults, the UK proggers actually nodded at times to, at least, the Thinking Victorian Gentlemen's loose interpretation of old Albion; a slightly harebrained sub Tolkein-esque druid-slurry, cooked up in response to an ever-increasingly mechanised world. With a page of Wordsworth and Coleridge's prose each tucked into a back pocket, these bands accidentally held the map upside down, followed the wrong Ley Lines and ended up either in outer space or up their own arses. I don't see how the most obvious return to roots for every other scruff from every other rough London suburb was to try and sound like you were trying to get signed to Sun records circa 1952... The world is a strange place, especially when it comes to perceived authenticity in music.

Of course, if you want to out-prog the prog bands then you dip into the 'Rock In Opposition' pool, and fish out Henry Cow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0zpwbtlWoE

Quote from: Alanko on May 28, 2016, 03:31:43 PM
poser artschool side-project for privileged kids ala The Clash

It's always hilarious when folks read 2 lines out of Joe Strummer's bio and think they have the whole band peggged. 

Quote from: uwe on March 16, 2016, 04:39:16 PM
Is that an EB-2 or a Rivoli, hard to catch it and the upper and lower horn look kind of weird?

That was an invigorating train wreck of a performance!

Gibson made at least one ES-355, presumably accidentally, that had a pointy horn and a rounder horn, presumably around the 1963 changeover period in the design. I suppose it is possible that they could have similarly messed up a Rivoli or EB-2 bass.

Another 90s reissue Rivoli - Does it still count if it has a Dimarzio instead of the Mudbucker?  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS-Gxc6DY-A

Some nice groovin' on an EB-2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eILWnKwkG5U

Well, it's not an EB2 or Rivoli but it's at least a Gibson hollowbody and not exactly the kind of music I would expect to see one in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2VScu_mZJA

I watched it with the volume off to save my soul. ;D

Pretty sure I saw this tour at the Riviera in Chicago. One of the loudest shows I've ever been to. And there's a good chance Barker is playing through the '72 SVT I sold him around '91.

Quote from: 66Atlas on October 27, 2016, 08:10:21 AM
[Ministry - Scarecrow]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

That's a Gibson EB 750.

Bingo! Rob got it.

I'm not a huge fan of the Barts that they put in them but you can still get some half-way decent tones from one.

If we started a thread for music videos featuring the EB 650 and 750 it would be very short unless Uwe gets busy with a videocam.

Quote from: Dave W on October 27, 2016, 02:02:55 PM
Uwe gets busy with a videocam.

No DIY Colonoscopies plz (you never known with those Germans)

shame the video quality of this isn't better...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PVZpo3r78g

A smattering of EB-750 vids!  :o

Quote from: Alanko on May 28, 2016, 05:21:44 AM
A bit of a detour, but I spotted a Les Paul Signature bass in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnejs-7EgdA

In my personal hell, this tune is playing on an endless loop. That way madness surely lies.

Also a wild Rivoli sighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6fegotswzs

Both bands are a bit of a lame '50s throwback really. I saw both clips on a BBC compilation show earlier today.

Ooof. And I personally like the original. But that was so milquetoast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3YOIphi-N0&ab_channel=MusicProf78

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS7_e9LdvDI

^^^^^
Barely visible Rivoli but the tone is just right.

Why did they have a nurse dancing in the audience? He wasn't that old back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IoYrm0sSuw

^^^

At least he understands that the baritone switch is a cut switch but I wish he would stop saying that the other position "enhances" the bass. It doesn't. It's a passive bass.

The perpetual suggestion that the switch somehow is a "bass boost" can be pretty infuriating. What is good is that the video must be one of those rare demos of an EB-2 that isn't just a mess of clipping or a totally soulless DI feed at whisper volume. Nice to here an EB-2 rattling furniture as intended. I know that guy claims not to be much of a bassist in other videos, but he's pretty solid here and really good at pointing out that the bass does a good Motown or R'n'B tone.

Having said that, he's always a wee bit reckless when he  has those instruments in that narrow corridor at the start of each video! I was watching that headstock swinging around near those shelves slightly nervously.

I had forgotten about this one - a rather prominently featured Rivoli too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=199&v=FyjmCg_VMU0

I don't understand why they would be against consumer capitalism. Aren't they trying to sell albums, merchandise and concert tickets? The bass in the video doesn't seem to match the audio unless it's a reissue.

Epi in stock black fin = reissue, yes.

Sometimes you fight from the inside.... it's not as if they were that huge.

Dave edit: No politics. Don't go there.

Seriously?  You're talking to guy who was actually born behind the iron curtain.  What do you actually know (aside from regurgitated US propaganda)?  I have no love for it, so it's clear, and feel like punching idiot hipsters wearing hammer and sickle shirts, of which I see far too many, but there's ignorant on both sides of that fence, QED.  I say what you call 'freedom' ain't worth bombing half of the rest of the world, rattling yer sabers around like you got a small penis complex, and sending your boys to be maimed by IEDs for either (especially because it's actually not under any realistic existential threat, despite the rhetoric to the contrary; see previous about complexes).

You do realise that there is a whole spectrum between (so called) free market capitalism and Soviet style communism right? 

Also, do you realise I was just posting a video with an Rivoli in it - why would make this into a political thread (cuz those don't get locked every dang time)?  Just let it be about the dang bass; cuz if you bring it, it will be well met.

I posted this way back in a different thread but that video was deleted from YT.

Rod Allen on an early Rivoli.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4FCF8yo0qU

I appreciate the response GG and agree that there is plenty of room for nuance in between extremes. I'd like to think we could be capable of political discourse here without lashing out in emotional temper tantrums. I'll respect the wishes of the moderators if they think that's impractical.

Who's the one that's butt hurt?  Sinking to condescending statements as regards my emotional state, that you cannot possibly have any valid knowledge of because this is an internet forum and you can't, for example, hear the inflection of my voice.  Stop projecting onto others; it's pathetic.  It's the internet, and if I respond to such things, it's because I am going to have fun with it.

I was generalizing and not trying to say anything disparaging to you specifically. Yes, intention can be hard to decipher from typed statements. I hope you can trust that I sincerely wish you nothing but good fortune and prosperity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkwmSzPdVnY

Another video with Steve Swallow playing his EB-2D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gseSgpawUSg


And again:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxjZGv9G-_s

Hadn't seen that clip - thanks. Colors of chloe is my favourite burton track. The album version is worth checking out for Eberhart's contribution - as well as Goodrick's amazing solo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08083BNaYcA

Cool backstage clip at the end!

Gerry always held his Rick so high I was always wondering if he ever hit himself in the jaw with the upper horn.

Late  :-\ blond bassist with a banjo tuners early EB-2 ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnD0H4VeHuY

Not a real lot of the Wibury Bros left.  :-\

Suzi does another Chinn-Chapman song that got misplaced in the mail and should have most likely gone to their other proteges ... Smokie! I can just hear Chris Norman sing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XI9WN1yW_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnz4DahuMec&feature=share

New to me....

^ nice one there.

Quote from: Chris P. on February 11, 2019, 02:36:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnz4DahuMec&feature=share

New to me....

What a lovely bassist Foxton was, quirky, groovy ... Weller never comprehended what he lost/gaveup/drove away, no bassist has enhanced his music in a similar way since then.

He had some good bassists though. I love Yolanda Charles on the Live Wood Album. He did not do much with Edgar Summertime/Jones but he was killer live. Minchella too! He played with the Who at Live8. He had some decent bassists around!

The Jam and Bruce is just different and magic.

None of them put a stamp on his music like Foxton did. But maybe that is exactly the way Weller - a difficult man at the best of times - wanted it.

I was crazy about The Jam when I was in my first class of high school (brugklas in Dutch). Didn't play any bass guitar yet at that age. But in hindsight I'm pretty sure it was the bass of Bruce Foxton that made me love The Jam so much. Just didn't know it back then.

That video that Chris posted once again shows that an EB-2 can be perfectly audible in the mix. Don't let anybody tell you it can't be done. ;-)

Sure, if you use the baritone switch ( sounds like Foxton did to me).  Amp eq or eq pedals are usually not deep enough of a cut and to wide bandwidth besides to work well for the purpose of de-mudding and adding punch to a full mud bass sound.

Now then, this particular instrument was very nearly mine, back in '78, but Bruce Foxton nipped into the same shop in Hounslow, not far from LHR, shortly after I headed home to borrow the extra £20 to buy her and he bought her for (iirc) £200...
I was gutted...
Then, on the wall, freshly back in for a 2nd time, a year after I first saw her, was this gorgeous cherry red and gold Thunderbird, built by some guy called Peter Cook, going for the Princely sum of £180... £20 cheaper than the Rivoli/EB2/whatever she was... so home she came and I've now owned her for 41 years... often wondered if Bruce still has the Rivoli... or... can someone confirm which this Lady in white is...? ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfpRm-p7qlY

A certain Canadian tech, and Youtube Celebrity, has got his mitts on an EB-2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI93QEGUdhA

Not as explosive as his Rickenbacker videos by any stretch, but clearly he doesn't know his way around Gibson basses. I see a poor old EB-2 that needs to go to a proper luthier for a neck reset, not a hack who earns his Youtube advert revenue by ranting away like a broken record.

Quote from: Basvarken on February 11, 2019, 01:49:42 PM
I was crazy about The Jam when I was in my first class of high school (brugklas in Dutch). Didn't play any bass guitar yet at that age. But in hindsight I'm pretty sure it was the bass of Bruce Foxton that made me love The Jam so much. Just didn't know it back then.

That video that Chris posted once again shows that an EB-2 can be perfectly audible in the mix. Don't let anybody tell you it can't be done. ;-)

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on February 11, 2019, 02:01:09 PM
Sure, if you use the baritone switch ( sounds like Foxton did to me).  Amp eq or eq pedals are usually not deep enough of a cut and to wide bandwidth besides to work well for the purpose of de-mudding and adding punch to a full mud bass sound.

Yes, clearly audible, and he's almost surely using the baritone switch. His tone reminds me of Chas Chandler with the Animals.

Quote from: Alanko on February 11, 2019, 02:59:51 PM
A certain Canadian tech, and Youtube Celebrity, has got his mitts on an EB-2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI93QEGUdhA

Not as explosive as his Rickenbacker videos by any stretch, but clearly he doesn't know his way around Gibson basses. I see a poor old EB-2 that needs to go to a proper luthier for a neck reset, not a hack who earns his Youtube advert revenue by ranting away like a broken record.

He is one ignorant piece of shit.

^^^
Some of the comments below the video are amusing, though. 

I'm not sure that this is the baritone filter sound. To me it sounds more like the mudbucker unfiltered. People tend to foget that an off-the-rack EB-2 had no unfiltered sound per se. You either got the bass cut (baritone) or the mids and the treble (alleged "natural" sound) when pushing the baritone switch, there was no bypass function (just like a Höfner Beatle Bass doesn't have an unfiltered sound with the stock circuit). One of my EB-2s has the toggle switch mod "baritone/bass/unfiltered" and that sound is what I hear with Foxton on that vid (apparently that mod wasn't so outlandish though I never heard about it until late). The suddenly apparent strong mids and better highs in bypass mode add to audibility no end. The bass stops woofing and starts barking. It's not a particularly refined sound, but it gets itself heard.

All I can say to that is that I've never heard an EB-2 sound like that without the baritone switch engaged. As always, I could be wrong.

Baritone switch was a stupid name anyway. It didn't change the pitch. Guild had a much better name: the Deep-Hard Tone Switch. Your choice.  :mrgreen:

Quote from: Dave W on February 12, 2019, 07:17:32 PM

Baritone switch was a stupid name anyway. It didn't change the pitch. Guild had a much better name: the Deep-Hard Tone Switch. Your choice.  :mrgreen:

Wuh, wuuuuuuuh; know what I mean; say no more

Must you dunk everything in your puerile double entendre-drenched smut?  :rolleyes:

You're talking to Dave right?

I would never question your ulterior motives, Jake!

https://youtu.be/NTTscUIIxkk

New Country alert!!! Three siblings and an EB-2, but - alas! - no cute nose wrinkling, a dying art obviously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpdh4pPl0Ck

Quote from: uwe on February 06, 2020, 05:01:41 PM
New NOT Country alert!!! Three siblings and an EB-2, but - alas! - no cute nose wrinkling, a dying art obviously.
...

Fixed it for you.  :mrgreen:

Quote from: Dave W on February 06, 2020, 08:05:58 PM
Fixed it for you.  :mrgreen:

Haha, I clicked the video before seeing this ^^ and thought: "Uh oh, what's Dave gonna say?".

Quote from: doombass on February 07, 2020, 12:46:46 AM
Haha, I clicked the video before seeing this ^^ and thought: "Uh oh, what's Dave gonna say?".

I have a fair knowledge of country music, although I'm certainly no expert by any means.  So far on matters such as these Dave's observations have been 100% accurate as far as I've been able to tell.  If anyone wants to get into a debate with him about country music, then good luck because you're going to need it.  LOL.  :)

Just because she couldn't wrinkle her nose ...

Quote from: uwe on February 07, 2020, 08:02:58 AM
Just because she couldn't wrinkle her nose ...

She may just not be that kind of girl.

I don't know much about the band Perry.  But I think they used to consider themselves country, then intentionally switched to pop.  Most likely, though, they were never really country in the first place.  Real country has a certain feel to it which I wouldn't even try to explain because I can't. 

The Band Perry =  :puke:

RE- the Band Perry

I worked crew for their show for their "hometown crowd" in Greeneville, TN a couple years ago. They're a faux set of sibling performers who didn't even bother TRYING to lip sync to the ProTools rig that was running through the PA. Milli Vanillli would have been embarrassed by how obviously fake they are.  I have their first album which had some catchy songwriting and promise for potential to turn into a Taylor Swift-style pop crossover.  They lack her talent and work ethic. Country? They're barely music.

Himmel, what a vicious, vile bunch you all are!  :mrgreen:

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/13ONldD8IuWBGM/giphy.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuVJEn9wk9Y

I had to endure a bro-country ad before the Band Perry video would even play.  Very painful. 

 

Quote from: Psycho Bass Guy on February 07, 2020, 10:10:27 PM
RE- the Band Perry

I worked crew for their show for their "hometown crowd" in Greeneville, TN a couple years ago. They're a faux set of sibling performers who didn't even bother TRYING to lip sync to the ProTools rig that was running through the PA. Milli Vanillli would have been embarrassed by how obviously fake they are.  I have their first album which had some catchy songwriting and promise for potential to turn into a Taylor Swift-style pop crossover.  They lack her talent and work ethic. Country? They're barely music.

:sad:

New music by the Band Perry.  If you can make it through the whole song, then you have an iron will.  I couldn't do it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMXQ8Cn_NaM

It certainly wasn't a commercial move, they lost almost all their fans and stalled their career. But - much like Taylor Swift - they felt confined by their former Country Pop and switched to this "Euro Dance Pop" (for lack of a better word). It might have been a sincere move, perhaps that is the kind of music they actually listened to on the tour bus, but I'm not sure it was well-advised.

Quote from: uwe on February 10, 2020, 03:10:41 PM
It certainly wasn't a commercial move, they lost almost all their fans and stalled their career. But - much like Taylor Swift - they felt confined by their former Country Pop and switched to this "Euro Dance Pop" (for lack of a better word). It might have been a sincere move, perhaps that is the kind of music they actually listened  to on the tour bus, but I'm not sure it was well-advised.

I think I read somewhere that that was just the music they genuinely liked.  So for better or worse I guess it makes sense to play music you really want to play.  You may not have many fans wanting to hear it, though. 

Personally, I don't know what possessed them to exchange a functioning, living rhythm section for phoned-in DJ beats heard a zillion times before and rape Kimberly's flawless, pure voice with auto-tune (as a style element, not to correct her pitch). Perhaps they wanted to sound more like Paramore, but they are nowhere as quirky with their new music, just lame.

Quote from: uwe on February 10, 2020, 04:52:22 PM
Personally, I don't know what possessed them to exchange a functioning, living rhythm section for phoned-in DJ beats heard a zillion times before and rape Kimberly's flawless, pure voice with auto-tune (as a style element, not to correct her pitch). Perhaps they wanted to sound more like Paramore, but they are nowhere as quirky with their new music, just lame.

That's a good point I hadn't even thought of about trying to be more like Paramore.  But their attempts are just outright boring. 

An Epi EB-2/Rivoli (good shot at 00:38) celebrating timeless manhood ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo6T5BwxFh0

Britpop also-rans Ocean Colour Scene, with an EB-2D. I cannot make out what is stuck on the front of it, but the cameras seem to be avoiding it!